VACList-Digest Monday, August 20, 2001 Issue 37
Today's Topics:
1. Re: RV Vacuum Cleaners
2. The elusive Falcon
3. Owners of 1960 Overlanders
4. Re: 1960 Overlander [?}
5. Re: '60 Tradewind Windows
6. Re: axle replacement
7. Re: The Average Age of an Airstreamer Enthusiast?
8. Re: The Average Age of an Airstreamer Enthusiast?
9. travels with my cat
10. Re: RV Vacuum Cleaners
11. Our first Airstream
12. Hardware for overhead cabinets
13. A/C and port window questions
14. Re: Floor Repair
15. Re Axle Replacement
16. Cooper tires
17. Re: Cooper tires
18. Re: Cooper tires
19. Re: A/C and port window questions
20. Re: Hardware for overhead cabinets
21. Re: Cooper tires
22. Re: Cooper tires
23. Re: '64 LandYacht for sale
24. REDONE 70'S TRAILER ON EBAY
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Message Number: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 20:18:45 -0400
From: D Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RV Vacuum Cleaners
jademountain.com
Get a catalogue, everyone on this list NEEDS a catalogue.
Daisy
Vanessa Dillon wrote:
>
> I had a small 12 volt shop type vacuum cleaner that was stronger than a Dirt
> Devil. It was incredable. It was stolen and I found a replacement souce on
> the internet but since some "helpful friend" tried to upgrade my last PC and
> crashed it does any one no where I or others could find one? It seems it
> was on a web site located in CO that catered to mountain folk wanting to go
> solar. Needless to say, I am basicly PC illiterate but have had bad luck
> several times with aquintances who claim to be PC experts.
> The Trailer Lady
> '56 Overlander.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Quamen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 10:08 AM
> Subject: [VAC] Re: The Average Age of an Airstreamer Enthusiast?
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "D Welch" To: "Multiple recipients of VACList"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > 56 '73 Ambassador.
> > >
> > > I hope someone is going to do some statistical sleight of hand about the
> > > relationship of our ages to that of our trailer. For example, Trailer
> > > age minus person's age = number of tools...
> > >
> > > Daisy(who is ankle deep in sanding dust and can't find an EU 2000 on the
> > > face of the earth, I JUST want to run the vacuum, do I have to go
> > > camping to run the vacuum..)
> >
> > Hey Daisy:
> >
> > I recently bought a 12V automotive type vacuum cleaner for < $20. Works
> > great. I had a bunch of woods chips and debris from leveling my stove.
> Was
> > surprised at the suction. Had a small Dirt Devil 120V for the trailer -
> > took it home. Now the 12V is all I have aboard. It even has a little
> > crevice tool.
> >
> > I plug it into my truck with the engine running (with a 12V extension
> cord)
> > rather than run down the trailer battery.
> >
> > Of course, the EU 2000 is nice too....
> >
> > GQ '67 Safari
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Message Number: 2
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 19:40:47 -0700
From: John and Jodi Guerin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: The elusive Falcon
Tuna,
You were right, we thought it might be a Falcon. There were actually two
trailers that I was looking at when we began that discussion. One of them
turned out to be a Traveler, which is what is mis-labeled in Bryan
Burkhart's book as a Falcon, the other is this Overlander. If I remember
right we thought it might be a Falcon because of the narrow stacked windows
and the front stacked square windows. Anyway, at some point I'll find out
how to put some pictures on the internet for everyone to see, but for now I
have e-mailed pictures to RJ to post on his website. I'm sure they'll be
up soon and I'll take more pictures as I go.
Jodi
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Message Number: 3
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 19:51:11 -0700
From: John and Jodi Guerin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Owners of 1960 Overlanders
Hello again all,
Just wondering if any of you who own a 1960 Overlander would mind dropping
me a line? I would like to see if some of you could help me figure out
what sort of bed/couch configuration our trailer should have in the front
and I would also like to track down copies of any literature anyone might
have on this model/year trailer. Anyone?
Jodi Guerin
1960 Overlander (aka: newest project)
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Message Number: 4
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 20:43:47 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1960 Overlander [?}
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Paul,
I own a '60 Overlander which was made at the Jackson Center, Ohio plant. =
It has been in the family since it was new, it has been in my care for =
over a decade now.
My trailer has a small aluminum plaque rivited to the outside of the =
trailer just to the right of the main door which states the model name. =
Yours should have the same. You may wish to post the serial number (also =
on a plaque near the door) so we can make sure as to the year of =
manufacture, model, and perhaps the factory.
If indeed you have a '60 Overlander I would be happy to share with you =
what I have discovered about the systems.
About the "shocking" problem...We often had the same problem whenever we =
used an extension cord with a 2 pronged plug. It sounds to me that the =
polarity is reversed. Your trailer should have a polarity light on top =
of the electrical box. It will be found in a closet or trunk space =
adjacent to where your cord plugs into the trailer. If the light is =
still working it will light when polarity is reversed. Try plugging the =
cord in the other way.
After replacing the 2 prong plug with one having 3 prongs (no chance on =
our part of reversing the polarity) we had this problem one more time =
when the cord itself went bad.
Get back to me with the serial number and we will proceed from there.
Scott Scheuermann
1960 Overlander
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To: Multiple recipients of VACList=20
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 11:53 AM
Subject: [VAC] 1960 Overlander [?}
Hello: I am new to the list with a 1960 dual-axle 26' trailer which I =
think is an Overlander. How do I verify this? ......
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Message Number: 5
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 21:16:23 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: '60 Tradewind Windows
David,
Would you please post your serial number so that we can confirm that it is a
'60 Tradewind? I have never heard of a Tradewind with dual axles anywhere
near that year of production.
I am trying to picture the window configuration on your trailer. Are you
saying that you have stacked windows on two of the three streetside windows?
>From what I am imagining you have a totally unique trailer.
The VAC has copies of sales literature covering the '59/'60 trailers. If you
are a member you can purchase a copy at a nominal charge. It shows the floor
plans, an exterior shot of each model and gives some info and stats on the
trailers. Eventually this info will be available on-line in the members only
section of www.airstream.net
Scott Scheuermann
1960 Overlander
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pfeffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:32 AM
Subject: [VAC] '60 Tradewind Windows
> Hi Group:
>
> It's been while since I communicated with you all. I hope many of the
> folks from last year are still on the list.
> We own a '62 GT, but since we wanted a little more length I just picked up
> a '60 Tradewind, rare with it's dual axles, but I need some direction on
> windows. The trailer naturally has the old style Hehr windows, and is
> missing the two top front street side frames. Any idea where I could get
> replacements, or how I might go about getting the parts to create them
> myself? I was thinking about going to a local canopy shop like GEM Top to
> see what they can do to help.
>
> If anyone has a wiring/plumbing schematics I'd appreciate seeing it in a
> .jpg file.
>
> The skin on this trailer is near perfect, the levelour(?) windows, curb
> side, sold my wife along with the permenant double bed and pink sink, tub
> and toilet. It has the original split rims and the tires, though old, are
> not cracked which tells me it has spent many years in the shade. If
anyone
> has any additional information about the '60 model year I'd like to heat
> about it.
>
> Best regards,
>
> David Pfeffer
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Message Number: 6
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 21:29:05 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: axle replacement
Bob,
Several years ago I needed to replace the shocks on my '60 Overlander so I
enlisted the help of a car restoration friend. After removing the old shocks
he noticed that the bushings where the spring attaches to the axle were all
worn and needed replacing. Within an hour the axle was off an on its way to
his shop for new bushings. The trailer was back on its own feet the very
next day. I was suprised at how simple it was.
Did you break a spring?
Scott Scheuermann
1960 Overlander
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 10:24 AM
Subject: [VAC] axle replacement
> Hi All,
>
> I have a 53 Flying Cloud and am getting ready to replace the entire axle
> and springs. I have the new axle, a Dexter 6000# heavy duty, custom made
> for the A/S. The company that was to do the replacement has opted out. I
am
> trying to convince myself I can do the job. I would like to know if
anyone
> on the list has done and give me advice.....
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Message Number: 7
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:02:38 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Average Age of an Airstreamer Enthusiast?
I took my first trip in my Grandfather's '60 Overlander when I was 5. I am
now 38 and own that very same trailer.
Scott Scheuermann
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Message Number: 8
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 20:36:52 -0700
From: "Vanessa Dillon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Average Age of an Airstreamer Enthusiast?
That is a wonderful story,
My Grandparents went on several Wally Byam caravans in the mid to late '50s.
He couldn't at the time offord to own an AS but Wally let them join them
down to Mexico as long as they would park in the very rear of the wagon
wheel parking photo sessions. In 1959 Grandpa bought a 1955 Chrysler New
Yorker Saratoga coupe in Navajo red and white with the matching two tone
leather seats. He had it set up for towing and though he could then afford
to buy an AS he died of a very fast speading cancer. That car to this day
sits in a barn at my Aunts house. It hasn't been driven since 1968 when it
was in a fender bender. My late uncle found a new fender for it but failed
to put it on for unknowne reasons. I'm going to see if I can talk my aunt
into selling it to me when I head south this winter and go by her place in
Santa Clara CA.
BTW They have a block of land in Down town Santa Clara, and my father
remembers when they only had dirt roads and were surrounded by fruit
orchards! I f I can find a way to restore my '56 Overlander, the year I was
born and my grandparents dream trailer I would love to see this car and
trailer together.
The Trailer Lady
'56 Overlander
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 7:02 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: The Average Age of an Airstreamer Enthusiast?
> I took my first trip in my Grandfather's '60 Overlander when I was 5. I am
> now 38 and own that very same trailer.
>
> Scott Scheuermann
>
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Message Number: 9
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 02:46:40 -0700
From: Tuna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: travels with my cat
Thought i'd share an experience i had yesterday (Sunday), towing my newest
traveling rig (the Trailwind's still awaiting new frame and floor, and
interior, and shell repairs) from Reno, NV to Ojai, CA... the trip took a
bit longer than anticpated due to an incident arising from the fact that i
travel with a leash-trained cat (Dr. Katz)...
12:15pm - we're at the gas station at Boomtown, i stepped out of the car and
closed the door behind me... step over the trailer hitch to get to the pump,
when i heard the 'click' of the prowler's power door locks... i assumed that
i'd inadvertently hit the clicker on the keychain in my pocket, and reached
for my keys...
and then, simultaneously, i noticed three things... 1) i didn't have the
clicker in my pocket, 2) saw the keys and clicker in the ignition, and 3)
saw Dr.K standing on the passenger side armrest, paw firmly planted on the
doorlock switch, grinning at me through the window....
oh, and 4), my spare key was in my wallet, inside the locked car. 40 minutes
later, i'd managed to obtain a wire coathanger (NO WIRE HANGERS!) from a
young couple in an RV... the 20th people i'd asked... and managed to open
the car...
i swear that cat can 'chuckle'...
Tuna
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Message Number: 10
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:01:47 -0400
From: "Robert Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RV Vacuum Cleaners
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I have four different catalogs and none are exactly the same. =20
=20
----- Original Message -----
From: D Welch
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 8:38 PM
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Subject: [VAC] Re: RV Vacuum Cleaners
=20
jademountain.com
Get a catalogue, everyone on this list NEEDS a catalogue.
Daisy
Vanessa Dillon wrote:
>
> I had a small 12 volt shop type vacuum cleaner that was stronger than a=
Dirt
> Devil. It was incredable. It was stolen and I found a replacement sou=
ce on
> the internet but since some "helpful friend" tried to upgrade my last P=
C and
> crashed it does any one no where I or others could find one? It seems =
it
> was on a web site located in CO that catered to mountain folk wanting t=
o go
> solar. Needless to say, I am basicly PC illiterate but have had bad luc=
k
> several times with aquintances who claim to be PC experts.
> The Trailer Lady
> '56 Overlander.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Quamen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 10:08 AM
> Subject: [VAC] Re: The Average Age of an Airstreamer Enthusiast?
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "D Welch" To: "Multiple recipients of VACList"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > 56 '73 Ambassador.
> > >
> > > I hope someone is going to do some statistical sleight of hand abou=
t the
> > > relationship of our ages to that of our trailer. For example, Trail=
er
> > > age minus person's age =3D number of tools...
> > >
> > > Daisy(who is ankle deep in sanding dust and can't find an EU 2000 o=
n the
> > > face of the earth, I JUST want to run the vacuum, do I have to go
> > > camping to run the vacuum..)
> >
> > Hey Daisy:
> >
> > I recently bought a 12V automotive type vacuum cleaner for < $20. Wo=
rks
> > great. I had a bunch of woods chips and debris from leveling my stov=
e.
> Was
> > surprised at the suction. Had a small Dirt Devil 120V for the trail=
er -
> > took it home. Now the 12V is all I have aboard. It even has a littl=
e
> > crevice tool.
> >
> > I plug it into my truck with the engine running (with a 12V extension
> cord)
> > rather than run down the trailer battery.
> >
> > Of course, the EU 2000 is nice too....
> >
> > GQ '67 Safari
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: RV Vacuum Cleaners</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>jademountain.com<BR><BR>Get=
a catalogue, everyone on this list NEEDS a catalogue.<BR><BR>Daisy<BR><B=
R>Vanessa Dillon wrote:<BR>><BR>> I had a small 12 volt shop type v=
acuum cleaner that was stronger than a Dirt<BR>> Devil. It was i=
ncredable. It was stolen and I found a replacement souce on<BR>>=
the internet but since some "helpful friend" tried to upgrade my last PC=
and<BR>> crashed it does any one no where I or others could find one?=
It seems it<BR>> was on a web site located in CO that catered t=
o mountain folk wanting to go<BR>> solar. Needless to say, I am basicl=
y PC illiterate but have had bad luck<BR>> several times with aquintan=
ces who claim to be PC experts.<BR>> The Trailer Lady<BR>> '56 Over=
lander.<BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> From: "Gary Quamen" =
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]><BR>> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList=
" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><BR>> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 1=
0:08 AM<BR>> Subject: [VAC] Re: The Average Age of an Airstreamer Enth=
usiast?<BR>><BR>> ><BR>> > ----- Original Message -----<BR=
>> > From: "D Welch" To: "Multiple recipients of VACList"<BR>> &=
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]><BR>> ><BR>> > > 56 '73 Ambass=
ador.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > I hope someone is going to do s=
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of our ages to that of our trailer. For example, Trailer<BR>> > >=
; age minus person's age =3D number of tools...<BR>> > ><BR>>=
> > Daisy(who is ankle deep in sanding dust and can't find an EU 2=
000 on the<BR>> > > face of the earth, I JUST want to run the va=
cuum, do I have to go<BR>> > > camping to run the vacuum..)<BR>&=
gt; ><BR>> > Hey Daisy:<BR>> ><BR>> > I recently bou=
ght a 12V automotive type vacuum cleaner for < $20. Works<BR>>=
; > great. I had a bunch of woods chips and debris from leveling=
my stove.<BR>> Was<BR>> > surprised at the suction. =
Had a small Dirt Devil 120V for the trailer -<BR>> > took it home.=
Now the 12V is all I have aboard. It even has a little<BR>&g=
t; > crevice tool.<BR>> ><BR>> > I plug it into my truck w=
ith the engine running (with a 12V extension<BR>> cord)<BR>> > r=
ather than run down the trailer battery.<BR>> ><BR>> > Of cou=
rse, the EU 2000 is nice too....<BR>> ><BR>> > GQ '67 Safari<=
BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =
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Message Number: 11
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:22:11 -0400
From: "Majorie Smallfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Our first Airstream
Hi all:
Thanks to Don in Grand Rapids my husband and I are now the proud owners of a
1970 23' Safari. It is being delivered today. Don found this gem and decided
to pass on it and kindly passed on the information to this list. Thanks Don!
This certainly is a wonderful list to receive. I have learned so much about
how to buy one and how to repair one that it is overwhelming.
I will take before pictures and after pictures and maybe some during
pictures. I am sure we will have lots of questions. Fortunately there is an
owners manual, unfortunately it is for a 1971 Safari. I am hoping there will
be a lot of the same information for both years. Anyone know about this??
Thanks again Don!
Margie and John Smallfield
1970 23' Safari
"The adventure begins..."
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Message Number: 12
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:45:17 -0700
From: MyAirstream <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hardware for overhead cabinets
Does anybody know a source for the sliding bars that lock to hold the
overhead cabinets open. I would think that they are still in use.
Bob
http://mrminimal.com
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Message Number: 13
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:23:26 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: A/C and port window questions
Hey all you Airstream lovers-
Hi....I'm Jamie and i'm a new Airstream Person.
1973 31' Sovereign....first off does anyone know where this name came from?
Second out of about a moillion questions i have...how would one go about
cleaning the inside of them port windows up top?
OK...Third....My A/C unit blows but not cold....any help would be nice
Thanks-
see you at future West Coast Rally's
Jamie Fraser
1973 Sovereign
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Message Number: 14
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:41:13 +0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Floor Repair
Daisy,
I have just finished repairing the floor in my '70
Overlander using the same methods you described
(penetrating epoxy and structural epoxy filler). I got
both items here in Seattle and didn't have to pay
shipping (the filler is quite spendy though). I still
have to make the floor level and smooth before I can
install the vinyl and pad so your experience is
helpfull. The filler said it was sandable, but I found
it to take a lot of muscle to work it down and it also
filled up the sand paper quickly, even though I used a
course grit. I'm finishing it off with "Rock Putty"
from Home Depot 'cause it'll sand a lot easier. But,
you're quite right, this floor will never rot.
Gary Murrell
'70 27' Overlander
http:\\home.att.net\~smgm
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Message Number: 10
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 22:23:12 -0400
From: D Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cork floors [was The Average Age of an Airstreamer Enthusiast?]
Jim, no not yet. The guy I called to order the cork said the floor
needs to be real smooth, or any irregularities will telegraph right
through the cork. I think it's flexible enough so it won't crack like a
vinyl floor, but lumps, holes, and bolt heads will show. That's why I'm
making such a deal about filling and sanding. I used Henry 547, a powder
you mix with water. It sets up in about 20min, and dries pretty quickly,
like 3hours ? It takes some muscle to sand it, I used a foam backed
sanding block for sheet rock and sheet rock sanding screens, 2nd coat. I
had filled the worst of the rotten out places with epoxy filler after
the penetrating epoxy. This floor will never rot.
Daisy
Jim Greene wrote:
>
> Daisy, have you installed your cork floors yet? I'm wondering how much
> floor leveling and preparation is required. I have replaced some water
> damaged flooring and even the original floor has some depressions where the
> bolts attaching it to the frame are pulled down a little below the floor
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Message Number: 15
Date: 20 Aug 01 13:09:31 -0700
From: RJ Dial <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re Axle Replacement
Usually you only replace the axle if the spindle gets scored or the axle cross-member
gets bent, but if you're still up for it, it can be done - but will require 2 people
at times. It requires the trailer to be jacked up and placed on 4 tall jack stands
Drop the axle onto support blocks by removing the 4 leaf spring bolts. Getting the
SOB out from under the trailer will require many swear words. Once out you can replace
the axle by removing the 4 large U bolts, carefully noting the lateral position and
If you are replacing any leaves and shackles, now is the time. You can get them at
utility trailer places (yellow pages), and are usually replaced as sets. When all
cars had leaf spring suspensions, there were auto shops on every block that repaired
andIf you are replacing the whole leaf assembly, including the bottom plate, you will
have to have new shock mounts welded on in the same position as the old.
If your frame mounts (ears) are bent, worn or the holes elongated- new ones have to be
welded on. If using all new springs, you may have to relocate the ears if they are
longer or shorter. Be sure to test fit the springs before trying to install the whol
Reverse procedure to reinstall (more swear words).
Best of luck!
RJ
VintageAirstream.com
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From: Bob Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: axle replacement
Hi All,
I have a 53 Flying Cloud and am getting ready to replace the entire axle and springs.
I have the new axle, a Dexter 6000# heavy duty, custom made for the A/S. The company
that was to do the replacement has opted out. I am trying to convince myself I can
I have to get new springs made. Does anyone have any experience with getting new
springs made?
Bob Patterson
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Message Number: 16
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:36:02 -0400
From: Bob Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cooper tires
Hi All,
I need some tires for my Flying Cloud. I tried to order the Michelin XCA
7.00x15 tires that are suppose to be the best but my local Sam's Club says
they are not made anymore. He called his warehouse and was told there are
no more available. I then did a search for comments on Goodyear Marathons
and found many horror stories about how bad Marathons are. I found trailer
tires made by Cooper Tire and am trying to find out if they are any good.
Does any Airstreamer have a suggestion as to a brand of tire and where to
buy them?
Bob Patterson
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Message Number: 17
Date: 20 Aug 01 14:18:58 -0700
From: RJ Dial <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cooper tires
Reply to: RE: [VAC] Cooper tires
Hi Bob,
I just bought a set of Carlisle 7.00x15 8Ply bias-ply LT tires for $58 each, a set of
black Dexter 5x15 wheels for $43 ea with matching chrome moon hubcaps that are
spitting images of the ones from 1950's era for $15 ea.
Any tire store can order the tires in - I phoned 4 places and took the cheapest, most
convenient location. I bought 6.70x15 Delta brand bias-ply tires for the Caravel two
years ago that I have no regrets about - from freeway speeds to gravel roads to mou
Cooper's are a popular brand back east, so it all depends on availabiity I guess.
RJ
'65 Caravel
'57 Flying Cloud
(more on the wheels later, including part#s)
Bob Patterson wrote:
>Hi All,
>I need some tires for my Flying Cloud. I tried to order the Michelin XCA >7.00x15
>tires that are suppose to be the best but my local Sam's Club says >they are not made
>anymore. He called his warehouse and was told there are >no more available. I then
>did>Bob Patterson
>
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Message Number: 18
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:32:50 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cooper tires
I am using cooper tires on my tradewind over 6000miles no trouble am
presently satisfted
Jim Smith
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Message Number: 19
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:39:39 -0400
From: Matt Worner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A/C and port window questions
Hi Jaimie,
Welcome to the Society of Keepers of the Tinsel Tubesteak. The 31' trailers
were the largest made at that time and the full name was "Sovereign of the
Road".
If your "Vista View" windows are like mine, there should be a flat aluminum
ring against the inside plexiglass. Gently press on the ring, toward the outer
glass, slide it toward the center of the window by gripping with a sharp
implement (knife point or scratch awl type) and you will see that there is a
hook type of arrangement that locks into the frame. The whole "sandwich" is
held together by the pressure of a rubber "O" ring between the panes of glass.
Once one end is clear, you can tease the whole snap ring out and remove the
inner plexi pane. I haven't had mine all the way out yet but I have "started"
the ring out, and it came rather easily. I'm thinking of drilling a small hole
in the end portion of the ring to make removing the inner pane for cleaning an
easier task.
For the AC, are you sure the thermostat is calling for cooling? On mine the
fan runs when the unit is on, whether calling for cooling or not. YMMV.
Hope this helps,
Matt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hey all you Airstream lovers-
>
> Hi....I'm Jamie and i'm a new Airstream Person.
>
> 1973 31' Sovereign....first off does anyone know where this name came from?
>
> Second out of about a moillion questions i have...how would one go about
> cleaning the inside of them port windows up top?
>
> OK...Third....My A/C unit blows but not cold....any help would be nice
>
> Thanks-
>
> see you at future West Coast Rally's
>
> Jamie Fraser
> 1973 Sovereign
>
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Pam, Matt and Darrell Worner
WBCCI, VAC, WNJU & WDCU #4971
1975 31' Sovereign, 2000 F-350 PSD, Hensley Arrow
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Message Number: 20
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:03:51 -0400
From: "Jim Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hardware for overhead cabinets
Bob, I've seen them in wood worker's supply catalogs. I used to get those
catalogs in the mail but haven't in a while. Off hand I don't come up with a
specific name but a web search should pull up a number of them.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
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From: "MyAirstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 11:45
Subject: [VAC] Hardware for overhead cabinets
> Does anybody know a source for the sliding bars that lock to hold the
> overhead cabinets open. I would think that they are still in use.
> Bob
> http://mrminimal.com
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Message Number: 21
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:25:04 -0700
From: "Gary Quamen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cooper tires
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From: "RJ Dial" To: "Multiple recipients of VACList"
> Hi Bob,
> I just bought a set of Carlisle 7.00x15 8Ply bias-ply LT tires for $58
each, a set of black Dexter 5x15 wheels for $43 ea with matching chrome moon
hubcaps that are spitting images of the ones from 1950's era for $15 ea.
Hey RJ:
Where did you get the hubcaps?
Order from Dexter direct?
Oakland Rim and Wheel?
Other?
I could use some without dents.
GQ '67 Safari
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Message Number: 22
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:43:34 -0500
From: "Harvey Barlow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cooper tires
Bob,
I recently ran into the same problem. In mid-July, just prior to departing
on an RVing vacation to Grand Teton, Yellowstone, Mt. Rushmore, Sturgis, and
Lewis and Clark's Fort Mandan (replica), I ordered a set of four new
Michelin XCA 700 x 15s from my local SAM's Club. The tires were listed in
the SAM's special order catalog but turned out to be no longer available
from the manufacturer. I was disappointed!
Along with doubt about the quality of GY Marathons I didn't want to use
225/75R15 radials because they have a slightly smaller diameter than 700 x
15s. This change will result in slightly less ground clearance which is a
problem with longer trailers which will drag their tails when
entering/exiting fuel stations and other driveways and ramps.
I didn't want to use the old-fashioned bias ply truck tires on this '84
trailer which will see a lot of highway miles, frequently at high speeds,
and I was not willing to spend $700 for a set of trailer tires from a local
tire retailer so I compromised. I bought a set of BF Goodrich 235/75R15
"XL" tires from SAM's. The XL stands for extra load. That tire was used
extensively several years ago on heavy duty 1/2 ton Ford pickups with GVWR
of up to 6200 pounds. The tires can be inflated to 41 psi at which pressure
they are rated to carry, I think, 2340 lbs. per tire. The set of four was
approximately $300 mounted and balanced with hazard warranty from SAM's.
The tires are not ST special trailer rated which I personally think is a lot
of hype anyway. ST tires supposedly withstand aging and cracking from UV
rays but it was my experience that GY Marathons did not live up to the
claims on a '93 34' A/S. If your trailer will be parked more often than
towed, you may prefer to use ST tires. My usage will wear out the tire
tread before the tires become UV cracked so I installed a non ST tire.
I just returned from a 4300 mile, ten state marathon using those tires with
complete satisfaction and no problems whatsoever. Some will think this is
insane but on a number of occasions, when passing a slow moving 18 wheeler,
I ran up to as much as 90 mph with the trailer in tow. I'm not recommending
such speeds as prudent but my new Dodge-Cummins dually reached that speed so
quickly and easily I was tempted to keep my foot down and see just how fast
it was willing to pull. I considered the wreckage that would result from a
trailer tire blowout at 100 mph so backed off and returned to the speed
limit.
Harvey
Harvey
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Multiple recipients of VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 3:36 PM
Subject: [VAC] Cooper tires
> Hi All,
> I need some tires for my Flying Cloud. I tried to order the Michelin XCA
> 7.00x15 tires that are suppose to be the best but my local Sam's Club says
> they are not made anymore. He called his warehouse and was told there are
> no more available. I then did a search for comments on Goodyear Marathons
> and found many horror stories about how bad Marathons are. I found trailer
> tires made by Cooper Tire and am trying to find out if they are any good.
> Does any Airstreamer have a suggestion as to a brand of tire and where to
> buy them?
> Bob Patterson
>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 23
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:47:32 -0400
From: "Robert Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: '64 LandYacht for sale
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I called to go look at it tomorrow. My wife will kill me if see finds out=
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I still have to go see it, if only for ideas on my '66 and '73. If someon=
e is interested let me know and I will let you know the shape it's in.
The '79 for $2000.00 is sold.
Bobby
Valdosta, GA
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From: Sherry
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 3:02 PM
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Subject: [VAC] '64 LandYacht for sale
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64 Airstream 28' Land Yacht, interior needs refurbishing, $1800.
520-319-8540.
Happy Trails - Sherry
'63 Bambi, WBCCI 1104, VAC, WDCU, TCT
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Message Number: 24
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:46:04 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: REDONE 70'S TRAILER ON EBAY
Hey gang, check the follow up photos you can get to from the EBAY site
on this trailer. The work and design are very close to what I think
airstream should be doing for its contemporary interiors. The owner has
stopped work and is selling it with what looks like most of the cabinet
work done. Anyhow, take a look.
Tom Walden
A Very Special Airstream Item # 594530478
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=594530478&r=0&t=0
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