Excuse the typos - Y has 39 protons of course - but the major point is this: can any theory predict yttrium and account for the lack of extra neutrons - if P+D is the operative reaction?
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From: Jones Beene
Chuck
Can you dig up any of that old theory you mentioned?
Anytime a theory makes predictions which turn out to be
true, it should be given a close look - no matter how preposterous. In this
case, yttrium would be highly unexpected, and it could add a lot of
credibility to examine any theory which predicts it - unless this was
shoe-horned into the picture, at a later date.
For instance - Y is element 39 and it consists of ~100% of
the one stable isotope - which is 88.9 amu, having 29 protons and 40
neutrons with no other isotope.
This fact alone makes Y extremely difficult to fit into any
theory as being a transmutation product of a heavier nucleus, and with one
or more decay reactions following fusion... since when P combines with D, we
find way too many surplus neutrons; and LENR is generally neutron-free.
Therefore the atomic mass numbers have to work out on their
own, without a free-neutron wild-card. And correspondingly - this difficulty
makes such a theory much more cogent, if this can really be accommodated
within the known rules of hot nuclear physics (and/or known decay products
and channels) -yet to do so, without another miracle (over and above the two
already present in LENR - the fusion itself, and the lack of gammas).
So, basically it gets down to there being 39 protons and 40
neutrons in Y. We can work backwards from that to Pd+D. which at a minimum
is 102+2 or 104+2 (and up from there, meaning much more difficult to
envision).
Pd of course is element 46, but with many stable isotopes
the fewest being 102. The spread of 7 protons gives an indication that the
theory to predict transmutation to Y will involve a either a quadruple alpha
emission, since when fusion with D takes place there are 47 protons to
account for (e.g. a fission of P+D can go to Y + O or something similar) -
so that that the figure of 16 amu becomes an important number, but even the
lightest Pd (102) will have 14-8=6 extra neutrons to hide, after giving up
two alphas.
Do you see the problem? The near impossibility of clean math
here makes it next to impossible. And this makes any theory predicting Y
most difficult and therefore most interesting if successful. (unless it is
an after-the-fact kludge).
Jones
From: Chuck Sites
...the EDAX plots I sent him where pretty
incredible.... one element stood out as weird; yttrium. Tom was very
excited about that finding and even had a theory that yttrium would appear
in D+Pd nuclear reaction
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