This is a question of point of vue and how to solves conflicted declaration, way larger than this. There could be disputes other who is really the father of something, this would be the same.
such a statement in Wikidata means: * This source says that this person has no child * This (other) source says that this person has some child If one of the source has been proven wrong, then the statement must be marked deprecated. If it's undecided and still disputed whose right, then we keep the two statements. This is how Wikidata was conceptually built By Denny, Markus, Lydia and the others. 2015-04-23 12:19 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>: > Hoi, > A question about the example... does that second source really care about > this and what do we do when we know this to be incorrect. It is bad enough > to want to know about the sum of all knowledge, I do not care for present > and past mistakes. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 23 April 2015 at 12:15, Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks! I added your example and Lydia's to the talk page here >> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Talk:Q19798647 >> >> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Thomas Douillard < >> thomas.douill...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Don't use Q19798647 The item is just a description of the concept ! on >>> Wikidata, there is a way to set an unknow value to a claim. >>> >>> here is how to set this special value on a claim in the UI, in french : >>> to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_pas_de_valeur.png >>> >>> You must click to the little blue icon on the left of the label. >>> >>> 2015-04-23 11:46 GMT+02:00 Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> So the intention is to use Q19798647 as a random place holder >>>> specifically for Wikibase entities without a value, but not as a "no value" >>>> placeholder for a person? I think it is useful in the way you describe it, >>>> but I am curious how you would model the source B saying that "X had no >>>> child" >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Lydia Pintscher < >>>> lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Gerard Meijssen >>>>> <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> > Hoi, >>>>> > Sorry for being dense.. What is wrong with there being no value ? >>>>> Having a >>>>> > "no value" is imho understanding only a complication of saying >>>>> nothing... >>>>> > Why not say nothing in the first place ? >>>>> >>>>> It is important for cases like the following for example: Source A >>>>> says "X had a child" and source B says "X had no child". >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Lydia >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher >>>>> Product Manager for Wikidata >>>>> >>>>> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. >>>>> Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 >>>>> 10963 Berlin >>>>> www.wikimedia.de >>>>> >>>>> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. >>>>> >>>>> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg >>>>> unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das >>>>> Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>>>> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>>> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > >
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