Hi Keith, My app is still on v15 but I think the principles are consistent for what I've got to add. I'll also point out I'm much more a 4D developer than a web developer so I tend to keep my we apps on the lean and simple side.
That said I keep the HTML out of 4D as much as possible. What's that mean? It means 4D either responds to a request from a page for data (usually a JSON) via API calls or populates a template via PROCESS TAGS. No building html in 4D code. There are a lot of advantages to this approach. It means that whatever you use to build the web pages can change without _having_ to change 4D and the other way around. This approach also makes it easier to build web pages that can be served via a web server or directly in a web area. The concern about plugins and anything else resolves itself. Use web tools to build web pages (I like Atom these days) and use 4D to do 4D. I have tried various IDEs but haven't found one that makes it easier for me to do sites but I probably don't use them enough to appreciate their virtues. I am skeptical that an IDE is useful until you have a really firm understanding of what it's doing for you, however. So they won't really help if you don't have any web expertise. On the other hand there is a remarkable amount you can accomplish in a web site without numerous tools and overly complicated frameworks. On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 1:08 AM, Keith Goebel via 4D_Tech < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi all. > We have an extensive 4D system to which we want to provide summary > overviews and drill-downs via the web. > I have a couple of questions I'm hoping somebody will be able to answer... > > Are you using 4Dv16 in a client server environment as well as providing a > web interface to the data? > If so, we would like to know what software and plugins do you use to make > the web environment happen? > - software and plugins for development? > - software and plugins for deployment? > - are you able to do the web development without getting the 4D > programmer(s) involved (apart from describing the data structure)? > Thanks in advance, Keith > > > ********************************************************************** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:[email protected] > ********************************************************************** -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA ======================= *We go vote - they go home* ********************************************************************** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:[email protected] **********************************************************************
