This is all really dumb. I'm going to go back to nailing hot chicks.
On Jun 23, 6:15 pm, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, yes and yes - articulated beautifully except there is physicality > - try putting your head in an oven and switching it on then tell me it > doesn't hurt! > > Your zen master doesn't smack you without good reason :-) > > What are you learning from pain? > > Who is learning it? > > Sent from an iPhone > > On 23 Jun 2010, at 19:19, jp EnlightenmentGuy <[email protected] > > > wrote: > > On Jun 23, 1:58 pm, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote: > >> it is a metaphor which suggests there is no real mother, so there is > >> no real you - think psychologically not physically - in physical > >> terms > >> we only have physicality by agreement so that may not be real > >> either - > >> but the mind can be trained to give up that the ego is a real > >> person - > >> training the mind to give up physicality my not be as useful and you > >> might need to find another eGroup LOL > > >> Advaita? Zen? identifying the mind as illusion, that is all that is > >> going on here... > > >> Sent from an iPhone > > > It is NOT a metaphor. > > > What you are is [The Tao that can be spoken is not the real Tao]. > > > That IS what you are. > > > What you are has NOTHING to do with the mind. No matter how much > > traiining goes on in a mind, that does not change what you are in any > > way whatsover. > > > "think psychologically not physically" <-- Nope. Think physically too! > > > You are NOT the body. Not in any way whatsoever. > > > There APPEARS to be a body. That appears within what you are. And the > > body is made up of what you are. > > > "identifying the mind as illusion" <-- Close, but NOPE! > > > Identifying EVERYTHING as illusion, THAT is what is going on here. > > > There is NOTHING that is real. > > > ALL of this is a dream. > > > The only "thing" that is real is THE DREAMER, and when The Dreamer > > awakes -- FROM the dream of "you" then The Dreamer realizes "it" was > > only dreaming. > > > This is Awakening. > > > Awakening FROM the dream of "you". > > > Who, or what, awakens? > > > Awakeness itself. Another paradox. Awakeness was never asleep! > > > YOU are NOT asleep right now, YOU are Enlightened right now, YOU are > > Enlightenment itself. > > > And that is all there is.
