There is technically nobody who is gay or straight because the Self is neither man nor woman.
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]>wrote: > Good plan - I might join you - maybe I'll check out a gay nude bar and see > what that is like - I wonder if Nisargadatta was a good shag? > > Sent from an iPhone > > > On 24 Jun 2010, at 15:28, jp EnlightenmentGuy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > This is all really dumb. >> >> I'm going to go back to nailing hot chicks. >> >> >> >> On Jun 23, 6:15 pm, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yes, yes and yes - articulated beautifully except there is physicality >>> - try putting your head in an oven and switching it on then tell me it >>> doesn't hurt! >>> >>> Your zen master doesn't smack you without good reason :-) >>> >>> What are you learning from pain? >>> >>> Who is learning it? >>> >>> Sent from an iPhone >>> >>> On 23 Jun 2010, at 19:19, jp EnlightenmentGuy < >>> [email protected] >>> >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> On Jun 23, 1:58 pm, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> it is a metaphor which suggests there is no real mother, so there is >>>>> no real you - think psychologically not physically - in physical >>>>> terms >>>>> we only have physicality by agreement so that may not be real >>>>> either - >>>>> but the mind can be trained to give up that the ego is a real >>>>> person - >>>>> training the mind to give up physicality my not be as useful and you >>>>> might need to find another eGroup LOL >>>>> >>>> >>> Advaita? Zen? identifying the mind as illusion, that is all that is >>>>> going on here... >>>>> >>>> >>> Sent from an iPhone >>>>> >>>> >>> It is NOT a metaphor. >>>> >>> >>> What you are is [The Tao that can be spoken is not the real Tao]. >>>> >>> >>> That IS what you are. >>>> >>> >>> What you are has NOTHING to do with the mind. No matter how much >>>> traiining goes on in a mind, that does not change what you are in any >>>> way whatsover. >>>> >>> >>> "think psychologically not physically" <-- Nope. Think physically too! >>>> >>> >>> You are NOT the body. Not in any way whatsoever. >>>> >>> >>> There APPEARS to be a body. That appears within what you are. And the >>>> body is made up of what you are. >>>> >>> >>> "identifying the mind as illusion" <-- Close, but NOPE! >>>> >>> >>> Identifying EVERYTHING as illusion, THAT is what is going on here. >>>> >>> >>> There is NOTHING that is real. >>>> >>> >>> ALL of this is a dream. >>>> >>> >>> The only "thing" that is real is THE DREAMER, and when The Dreamer >>>> awakes -- FROM the dream of "you" then The Dreamer realizes "it" was >>>> only dreaming. >>>> >>> >>> This is Awakening. >>>> >>> >>> Awakening FROM the dream of "you". >>>> >>> >>> Who, or what, awakens? >>>> >>> >>> Awakeness itself. Another paradox. Awakeness was never asleep! >>>> >>> >>> YOU are NOT asleep right now, YOU are Enlightened right now, YOU are >>>> Enlightenment itself. >>>> >>> >>> And that is all there is. >>>> >>>
