While time is a concept, objects in the physical universe can be shown
to have duration. Watch the speedometer on your car? Wait for a
scheduled train? Try manipulating that reality?
You yourself said there was no you until the cell divided.
A few things need to be straightened out here.
For awareness there is no time, no past, no present, no future.
For ego (which perceives late by the way) duration shows up as time.
There are probable outcomes.
There is no this?
There is an unprovable and improbable outcome that can be seen.
For whom?
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On 24 Jun 2010, at 17:34, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote:
This is all really dumb.
There is no this.
I'm going to go back to nailing hot chicks.
There is no "I".
There is no going to go back because there is no future.
There is no time. There is no past and future. Only present.
There is nobody nailing. There is no space.
There are no chicks. There is no man or woman.
It is a problem of your perception that you perceive some chicks as
hot and some as not hot. There are no hot chicks.
Now go and jerk off to porn you fucking bastard.
You are a worthless bag of meat and bones which can be fed to the
dogs after harvesting your organs for the organ harvest market.
Nobody needs you except for your eyeballs, your heart, lungs,
kidneys. Rest of your body will go to feed the pigs.
What if you die now ? Yeah what if ?
On Jun 23, 6:15 pm, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes, yes and yes - articulated beautifully except there is
physicality
> - try putting your head in an oven and switching it on then tell
me it
> doesn't hurt!
>
> Your zen master doesn't smack you without good reason :-)
>
> What are you learning from pain?
>
> Who is learning it?
>
> Sent from an iPhone
>
> On 23 Jun 2010, at 19:19, jp EnlightenmentGuy
<[email protected]
>
> > wrote:
> > On Jun 23, 1:58 pm, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >> it is a metaphor which suggests there is no real mother, so
there is
> >> no real you - think psychologically not physically - in physical
> >> terms
> >> we only have physicality by agreement so that may not be real
> >> either -
> >> but the mind can be trained to give up that the ego is a real
> >> person -
> >> training the mind to give up physicality my not be as useful
and you
> >> might need to find another eGroup LOL
>
> >> Advaita? Zen? identifying the mind as illusion, that is all
that is
> >> going on here...
>
> >> Sent from an iPhone
>
> > It is NOT a metaphor.
>
> > What you are is [The Tao that can be spoken is not the real Tao].
>
> > That IS what you are.
>
> > What you are has NOTHING to do with the mind. No matter how much
> > traiining goes on in a mind, that does not change what you are
in any
> > way whatsover.
>
> > "think psychologically not physically" <-- Nope. Think
physically too!
>
> > You are NOT the body. Not in any way whatsoever.
>
> > There APPEARS to be a body. That appears within what you are.
And the
> > body is made up of what you are.
>
> > "identifying the mind as illusion" <-- Close, but NOPE!
>
> > Identifying EVERYTHING as illusion, THAT is what is going on here.
>
> > There is NOTHING that is real.
>
> > ALL of this is a dream.
>
> > The only "thing" that is real is THE DREAMER, and when The Dreamer
> > awakes -- FROM the dream of "you" then The Dreamer realizes "it"
was
> > only dreaming.
>
> > This is Awakening.
>
> > Awakening FROM the dream of "you".
>
> > Who, or what, awakens?
>
> > Awakeness itself. Another paradox. Awakeness was never asleep!
>
> > YOU are NOT asleep right now, YOU are Enlightened right now, YOU
are
> > Enlightenment itself.
>
> > And that is all there is.
