I read through that case there sueing more to get out of there contract
with cambium then money and the end user is suspected of making profit
and helping cambium
I'm NOT saying UBNT is right or wrong
There is just not enough information out yet to get super angry yet
Very interested to see how this case unfolds though
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018, 4:17 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us
<mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:
don't forget that they then sue users, distributors and competitors
for conspiracy to hack when you load another OS/UI on their
commodity hardware that you own outright.
Just sayin'
-Sean
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:05 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
<j...@brazoswifi.com <mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com>> wrote:
UBNT is doing what UBNT does. They take commodity hardware and
wrap it in a shiny box with a slick UI. ____
The commodity hardware is cheap and works reliably well. Don’t
hate on something that sells well because it is easy to use.____
__ __
No, they aren’t selling glass. They expect you to do that part
on your own.____
__ __
Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com____
__ __
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones
*Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2018 8:44 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber____
__ __
I don't trust ubnt in any space. That's why their fiber stuffs
aren't even on our radar. They're just doing the electronics
right? Tell me they're not in the glass game itself. Tell me God
they're not selling tough fiber or anything like that to rot in
the ground____
__ __
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 2:25 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:____
I can generally get a building permit to use a public
utility ROW or the side of a street for almost free. ____
Perhaps use a customers home for everything in exchange for
service etc. ____
____
I agree, for 30 PON is a good way to go. But I like the
simplicity of AE, the fact that I can cast shade on PON
based competitors and not having to deal with splitters. ____
____
And I do PON all day long with Calix. But for a non
regulated for profit startup, Calix is not the way to go.____
However I do not trust UBNT in this space... yet...____
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*From:*Colin Stanners ____
*Sent:*Wednesday, August 29, 2018 1:18 PM____
*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ____
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber____
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ActiveEthernet: Property acquisition for the land, legal
fees, concrete pad, electrical install, cabinet, UPS,
heating/cooling, fiber switch is probably $10,000 - 15,000
including cost of time. When we're busy I'm not sure that it
would be worth doing for only 30 homes.____
____
PON: two 1x16 fiber splitters that fit in existing splice
cases and require none of that support cost $60 each.____
____
Shared bandwidth...16 customers sharing 2.5gbit fiber looks
pretty good when we still have tower sites with 16 customers
on a 10mbit 2.4Ghz FSK AP. And 10Gbit GPON seems to be
coming soon... ____
____
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On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:04 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:____
If you have one strand going out there, you hang a
switch and give all 30 homes active E. ____
____
Each home needs a drop. ____
So you have to connect the drop to either a splitter or
an SFP. ____
____
With AE you will have to power the switch but then you
have no shared bandwidth, it has market cache vs shared
bandwidth old fashioned GPON etc...____
____
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*From:*Colin Stanners ____
*Sent:*Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:57 PM____
*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ____
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber____
____
That's the main reason, and it branches into
upgradeability. If a new 30-house subdivision appears in
a field a few miles from your headend, and you have a
spare 10 strands going out there, you only need to use
2-3 strands instead of running new 48-strand cable the
whole way.____
____
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:53 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:____
So, other than the obvious strand count advantages,
why would you use this vs active ethernet?____
____
*From:*Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] ____
*Sent:*Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:04 PM____
*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ____
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber____
____
It works fine. We have it in 2 subdivisions.
It is brain dead simple to configure.____
Since it “Just Works” there isn’t a lot to
configure. The ONU (cpe) can run in bridge or
router mode. I’m not sure what the routing/NAT
speeds are capable of but it will do 1G in bridge
mode without breaking a sweat.____
____
Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com____
____
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of
*Jason McKemie
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:17 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
<Af@af.afmug.com <mailto:Af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber____
____
Does anyone actually have this equipment in a
production environment? I have a test setup, just
haven't heard much discussion about it so I thought
I'd check with the group.____
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