don't forget that they then sue users, distributors and competitors for conspiracy to hack when you load another OS/UI on their commodity hardware that you own outright.
Just sayin' -Sean On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:05 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] <j...@brazoswifi.com> wrote: > UBNT is doing what UBNT does. They take commodity hardware and wrap it in > a shiny box with a slick UI. > > The commodity hardware is cheap and works reliably well. Don’t hate on > something that sells well because it is easy to use. > > > > No, they aren’t selling glass. They expect you to do that part on your > own. > > > > Jim Bouse > Owner - Brazos WiFi > 979-985-5912 > http://www.brazoswifi.com > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones > *Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2018 8:44 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber > > > > I don't trust ubnt in any space. That's why their fiber stuffs aren't even > on our radar. They're just doing the electronics right? Tell me they're not > in the glass game itself. Tell me God they're not selling tough fiber or > anything like that to rot in the ground > > > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 2:25 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > I can generally get a building permit to use a public utility ROW or the > side of a street for almost free. > > Perhaps use a customers home for everything in exchange for service etc. > > > > I agree, for 30 PON is a good way to go. But I like the simplicity of AE, > the fact that I can cast shade on PON based competitors and not having to > deal with splitters. > > > > And I do PON all day long with Calix. But for a non regulated for profit > startup, Calix is not the way to go. > > However I do not trust UBNT in this space... yet... > > > > > > *From:* Colin Stanners > > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 1:18 PM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber > > > > ActiveEthernet: Property acquisition for the land, legal fees, concrete > pad, electrical install, cabinet, UPS, heating/cooling, fiber switch is > probably $10,000 - 15,000 including cost of time. When we're busy I'm not > sure that it would be worth doing for only 30 homes. > > > > PON: two 1x16 fiber splitters that fit in existing splice cases and > require none of that support cost $60 each. > > > > Shared bandwidth...16 customers sharing 2.5gbit fiber looks pretty good > when we still have tower sites with 16 customers on a 10mbit 2.4Ghz FSK AP. > And 10Gbit GPON seems to be coming soon... > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:04 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > If you have one strand going out there, you hang a switch and give all 30 > homes active E. > > > > Each home needs a drop. > > So you have to connect the drop to either a splitter or an SFP. > > > > With AE you will have to power the switch but then you have no shared > bandwidth, it has market cache vs shared bandwidth old fashioned GPON etc... > > > > > > > > *From:* Colin Stanners > > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:57 PM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber > > > > That's the main reason, and it branches into upgradeability. If a new > 30-house subdivision appears in a field a few miles from your headend, and > you have a spare 10 strands going out there, you only need to use 2-3 > strands instead of running new 48-strand cable the whole way. > > > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:53 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > So, other than the obvious strand count advantages, why would you use this > vs active ethernet? > > > > *From:* Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] > > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:04 PM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber > > > > It works fine. We have it in 2 subdivisions. > It is brain dead simple to configure. > > Since it “Just Works” there isn’t a lot to configure. The ONU (cpe) can > run in bridge or router mode. I’m not sure what the routing/NAT speeds are > capable of but it will do 1G in bridge mode without breaking a sweat. > > > > Jim Bouse > Owner - Brazos WiFi > 979-985-5912 > http://www.brazoswifi.com > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:17 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <Af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber > > > > Does anyone actually have this equipment in a production environment? 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