Is 450m 3GHz supported? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> On Dec 13, 2018, at 5:06 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I responded to Ryan's ticket in our system, but figured I'd follow up here as > well. > > Everyone's comments on amount of power supply is right on. > > In regards to the pinning. The cambium sync card has a specific pinout > which is fixed for technical reasons I don't need to go into details for... > suffice it to say that the design for a flexible jumpered version of this > card would have added enough complexity and cost to an already more expensive > than I really wanted it to be card. And by additional cost I mean it would > have been almost as much as buying a cambium sync card plus a separate > agnostic card. So I figured it was better to just ship it fixed-pinout. > > So, buy a cambium sync card for any 450i or 450m's you need sync for, and an > agnostic card for everthing else. The only exception to this advice is that > the traditional PIPS card is required for radios which need the older > canopy-style sync (I.E. 450 and before and ePMP). > > > >> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 5:38 PM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote: >> That's a good point, I think I've also figured out I can't power anything >> BUT cambium 450i and 450m with the two cards I have. So I'll need a polarity >> agnostic card I believe. >> >> I didn't think long enough but I think you're right, each port can be a >> seperate power supply. So 450m on each power supply then on the third one >> could carry a mimosa and the 820 >> >> >>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 4:16 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I imagine it would probably be fine, since that's max load, and not what >>> it's typically going to be using, but 120 watts on a 120 watt power supply >>> is a bit closer than I'd want things to be. >>> >>> I assume your using a rack injector, which if I remember correctly, lets >>> you use any power input on any of the ports (regardless of what card >>> they're on), so why not use all three power supplies? >>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:24 PM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Would like to tag on this, I've sent this off to packeflux support as well >>>> but maybe the crowd can tell me if this is good. >>>> >>>> I would like to power the following. >>>> >>>> 1 – PMP450i (5ghz) >>>> 2 – PMP450m (5ghz) >>>> 1 – PTP820S (18ghz) >>>> 1 – Mimosa B24 (24ghz) >>>> >>>> >>>> I’ve got two “Cambium Sync for 450i / 450m” boards. I’ve also got three >>>> 48v 2.5A 120w,c8 power supplies. >>>> >>>> Can I plug in two of the 48v 2.5A power supplies, then configure >>>> >>>> Card 1 – 1st power supply – pmp450m, pmp450i, mimosa b24 >>>> Card 2 – 2nd power supply – pmp450m, PTP820s >>>> >>>> PMP450m – 70W typical, 80W peak >>>> PMP450i – 15W typical, 25W max >>>> PTP820S – 35W >>>> Mimosa B24 – 19.5W max >>>> >>>> So looking at the power supply, it can do 120w >>>> >>>> If I do the way I want we would be looking at 120W for the first power >>>> supply and then 105W for card two. >>>> >>>> Would this be enough power do you think? Seems like I'm right up against >>>> the limits trying to power everything with two power supplies. -48v isn't >>>> an option at this site. >>>> >>>> Just want to make sure I’m not doing anything strange or out of the >>>> ordinary here. >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 4:50 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> That's kind of surprising that an old 450 AP ran for a couple of days on >>>>> 48v before it died... I would've expected it to die right away. >>>>> >>>>> It would be very nice if everything would just run on either voltage... >>>>> the ePMP 1000 GPS radios do, and an AF5x does (unless it's one of the >>>>> very first ones to ship... then it's 24v only), but I think that's about >>>>> all that does. Pretty much anything that does Gigabit PoE will take >>>>> either polarity, so that at least simplifies things a little bit (but >>>>> using the wrong PoE pinout can screw up sync over power... so there's >>>>> that). >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 11:06 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> There are lots of choices. >>>>>> >>>>>> For DIN rail, I keep the Traco 360W units in stock, use them with or >>>>>> without the BMU depending on whether it’s an AC or DC site. >>>>>> >>>>>> For non DIN rail, I keep Mean Well 150W and 300W HRP series in stock. >>>>>> >>>>>> Most stuff is going to 48V, so I’m building DC sites as 48V now. Small >>>>>> DC-DC for 24V if needed, more and more not needed. >>>>>> >>>>>> And of course whenever we say 48V, the equipment needs to actually >>>>>> accept up to at least 60V. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It’s starting to drive me crazy when I want to add a sector at a site >>>>>> and realize the existing sectors are 24V but the new one will have to be >>>>>> 48V. The RackInjectors and PowerInjectors handle this nicely, but it’s >>>>>> a recipe for disaster and a source of confusion. I’ve already fried a >>>>>> 450 AP at a tower with mixed vintage equipment, because I thought it was >>>>>> a 450i and I powered it with 48V. It ran for a couple days and then >>>>>> died. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Techs keep questioning me when I say an AF5x or a Nanostation ac takes >>>>>> 24V. I understand the confusion, you don’t expect 24V on a Gigabit POE. >>>>>> What would really make sense is if equipment would accept either >>>>>> voltage, and either polarity. OK, not possible with high current draw >>>>>> radios like a Medusa or an AF11, but it would be nice on a Nanostation. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List >>>>>> Account) >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 10:28 AM >>>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I have the new 3.65 medusa on my mind.... plus I'm a bit tired. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The 48V 2.5A power supplies will run 2 non 3.65 medusa radios each. If >>>>>> you jumper the boards so 2 radios run off of each power supply you'll be >>>>>> fine (the AF24 is a similar quantity of power). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> But, a bulk supply is probably a better idea if you can find one in your >>>>>> right form factor. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 8:07 AM Eric Muehleisen <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been using CTM2's for nearly a decade, but they do not support >>>>>> 450m. CMM5 is waaay to expensive for what it does and is clunky. I've >>>>>> been looking at Packetflux's RackInjector's. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not familiar with PacketFlux products and need clarity on something. >>>>>> See attached. I need to power (3) 450m AP's and a(1) AF24. I also need >>>>>> physical spares for each unit. Is the attached parts list correct or am >>>>>> I missing something? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 >>>>>> >>>>>> [email protected] | http://www.packetflux.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc. > Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 > [email protected] | http://www.packetflux.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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