Sounds good. It’s exactly what I thought. I just wanted to make sure I didn’t miss anything
Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Dec 13, 2018, at 8:16 AM, David M <[email protected]> wrote: > > Jon, > > The 3G 450M doesnt do POE it has its own Power port for 48v connection. > > The power it takes to run all the radios in it is overwhelming to any of > todays poe standards. > > We have allocated some outdoor rated DC control wire from a local Electric > wholesale company to fill that > > gap with power. > > It will definitely change your current way thinking when deploying these > things. > > I will post pics once ours are configured to the MTOW-P-4' mounts we have. > > There are some additional precautions to take when deploying them that I had > to implement on our design at the top > > of the tower. We added the DC transtector 48v surge arrestor to the 48v > distribution block inside our control head at the top. > > > >> On 12/13/2018 6:11 AM, Jon Langeler wrote: >> Is 450m 3GHz supported? >> >> Jon Langeler >> Michwave Technologies, Inc. >> >> >> On Dec 13, 2018, at 5:06 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I responded to Ryan's ticket in our system, but figured I'd follow up here >>> as well. >>> >>> Everyone's comments on amount of power supply is right on. >>> >>> In regards to the pinning. The cambium sync card has a specific pinout >>> which is fixed for technical reasons I don't need to go into details for... >>> suffice it to say that the design for a flexible jumpered version of this >>> card would have added enough complexity and cost to an already more >>> expensive than I really wanted it to be card. And by additional cost I >>> mean it would have been almost as much as buying a cambium sync card plus a >>> separate agnostic card. So I figured it was better to just ship it >>> fixed-pinout. >>> >>> So, buy a cambium sync card for any 450i or 450m's you need sync for, and >>> an agnostic card for everthing else. The only exception to this advice is >>> that the traditional PIPS card is required for radios which need the older >>> canopy-style sync (I.E. 450 and before and ePMP). >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 5:38 PM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> That's a good point, I think I've also figured out I can't power anything >>>> BUT cambium 450i and 450m with the two cards I have. So I'll need a >>>> polarity agnostic card I believe. >>>> >>>> I didn't think long enough but I think you're right, each port can be a >>>> seperate power supply. So 450m on each power supply then on the third one >>>> could carry a mimosa and the 820 >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 4:16 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> I imagine it would probably be fine, since that's max load, and not what >>>>> it's typically going to be using, but 120 watts on a 120 watt power >>>>> supply is a bit closer than I'd want things to be. >>>>> >>>>> I assume your using a rack injector, which if I remember correctly, lets >>>>> you use any power input on any of the ports (regardless of what card >>>>> they're on), so why not use all three power supplies? >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:24 PM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Would like to tag on this, I've sent this off to packeflux support as >>>>>> well but maybe the crowd can tell me if this is good. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to power the following. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1 – PMP450i (5ghz) >>>>>> 2 – PMP450m (5ghz) >>>>>> 1 – PTP820S (18ghz) >>>>>> 1 – Mimosa B24 (24ghz) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I’ve got two “Cambium Sync for 450i / 450m” boards. I’ve also got three >>>>>> 48v 2.5A 120w,c8 power supplies. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can I plug in two of the 48v 2.5A power supplies, then configure >>>>>> >>>>>> Card 1 – 1st power supply – pmp450m, pmp450i, mimosa b24 >>>>>> Card 2 – 2nd power supply – pmp450m, PTP820s >>>>>> >>>>>> PMP450m – 70W typical, 80W peak >>>>>> PMP450i – 15W typical, 25W max >>>>>> PTP820S – 35W >>>>>> Mimosa B24 – 19.5W max >>>>>> >>>>>> So looking at the power supply, it can do 120w >>>>>> >>>>>> If I do the way I want we would be looking at 120W for the first power >>>>>> supply and then 105W for card two. >>>>>> >>>>>> Would this be enough power do you think? Seems like I'm right up against >>>>>> the limits trying to power everything with two power supplies. -48v >>>>>> isn't an option at this site. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just want to make sure I’m not doing anything strange or out of the >>>>>> ordinary here. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 4:50 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> That's kind of surprising that an old 450 AP ran for a couple of days >>>>>>> on 48v before it died... I would've expected it to die right away. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It would be very nice if everything would just run on either voltage... >>>>>>> the ePMP 1000 GPS radios do, and an AF5x does (unless it's one of the >>>>>>> very first ones to ship... then it's 24v only), but I think that's >>>>>>> about all that does. Pretty much anything that does Gigabit PoE will >>>>>>> take either polarity, so that at least simplifies things a little bit >>>>>>> (but using the wrong PoE pinout can screw up sync over power... so >>>>>>> there's that). >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 11:06 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> There are lots of choices. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For DIN rail, I keep the Traco 360W units in stock, use them with or >>>>>>>> without the BMU depending on whether it’s an AC or DC site. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For non DIN rail, I keep Mean Well 150W and 300W HRP series in stock. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Most stuff is going to 48V, so I’m building DC sites as 48V now. >>>>>>>> Small DC-DC for 24V if needed, more and more not needed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And of course whenever we say 48V, the equipment needs to actually >>>>>>>> accept up to at least 60V. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It’s starting to drive me crazy when I want to add a sector at a site >>>>>>>> and realize the existing sectors are 24V but the new one will have to >>>>>>>> be 48V. The RackInjectors and PowerInjectors handle this nicely, but >>>>>>>> it’s a recipe for disaster and a source of confusion. I’ve already >>>>>>>> fried a 450 AP at a tower with mixed vintage equipment, because I >>>>>>>> thought it was a 450i and I powered it with 48V. It ran for a couple >>>>>>>> days and then died. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Techs keep questioning me when I say an AF5x or a Nanostation ac takes >>>>>>>> 24V. I understand the confusion, you don’t expect 24V on a Gigabit >>>>>>>> POE. What would really make sense is if equipment would accept either >>>>>>>> voltage, and either polarity. OK, not possible with high current draw >>>>>>>> radios like a Medusa or an AF11, but it would be nice on a Nanostation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Forrest Christian >>>>>>>> (List Account) >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 10:28 AM >>>>>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have the new 3.65 medusa on my mind.... plus I'm a bit tired. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The 48V 2.5A power supplies will run 2 non 3.65 medusa radios each. If >>>>>>>> you jumper the boards so 2 radios run off of each power supply you'll >>>>>>>> be fine (the AF24 is a similar quantity of power). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But, a bulk supply is probably a better idea if you can find one in >>>>>>>> your right form factor. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 8:07 AM Eric Muehleisen <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've been using CTM2's for nearly a decade, but they do not support >>>>>>>> 450m. CMM5 is waaay to expensive for what it does and is clunky. I've >>>>>>>> been looking at Packetflux's RackInjector's. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not familiar with PacketFlux products and need clarity on >>>>>>>> something. See attached. I need to power (3) 450m AP's and a(1) AF24. >>>>>>>> I also need physical spares for each unit. Is the attached parts list >>>>>>>> correct or am I missing something? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [email protected] | http://www.packetflux.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc. >>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT >>> 59602 >>> [email protected] | http://www.packetflux.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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