Exactly my thought. You’d connect them to the termination providers who would 
bill them directly. 

> On Apr 6, 2019, at 14:28, David Thake <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> You can certainly sell Cloud PBX without origination and termination.
> 
> The sip trunk and DID could be sourced by the client from another SIP 
> provider while you just handle the PBX setup and maintenance whilst getting a 
> commission from the sip trunk provider perhaps... It really depends what you 
> want to do.
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>> On 6 Apr 2019, at 20:25, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't understand how you would sell managed cloud PBX without origination 
>> and termination, seems like it would be part of the package.
>> 
>> If you bill them, and they can make calls to/from the PSTN via the service 
>> you sell them, I believe that makes you an interconnected VoIP provider.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
>> Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 12:56 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Selling managed PBX vs phone line
>> 
>> Is there any difference?
>> 
>> I know if you sell voip phone lines you have to file 499s and a bunch of 
>> other things. 
>> 
>> If you’re selling a managed PBX in the cloud to a business customer does 
>> that still make you a voip provider?  Or only if they don’t have their own 
>> termination provider and you’re doing the termination for them?
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