Back in the days of the analog phone system screwed to the wall in the phone 
closet, many small businesses had a “phone guy” they paid regularly to do all 
their employee moves/adds/changes, configure IVR trees and voicemail, set up 
MOH, train employees, do software upgrades, and fix the hardware when it broke. 
 This cost a lot and I assume was a lucrative business.  But the whole idea of 
cloud PBX is to get away from the hassle and expense of having the phone guy 
come out on a monthly basis.  So in 2019 not 1999, I think Lewis is probably 
right.  Of course there are probably a few customers who want the latest 
technology and still want to pay big bucks to somebody to babysit it for them.  
Maybe the same people who buy the extended warranty at Best Buy, or who pay the 
phone company for inside wiring maintenance.

 

 

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Why would you is the question. The majority of the money is in the origination 
and termination. I don't think you could compete in the space without offering 
it.

 

On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 9:31 PM Daniel White <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Yes you can do it and we do offer that to some ISP's that would rather provider 
their own origination and termination.  For the most part, our bulk pricing 
though beats what an individual ISP can purchase.

As long as you do not provide an interconnection to the PSTN, there isn't any 
regulatory burden.

 


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Exactly my thought. You’d connect them to the termination providers who would 
bill them directly. 


On Apr 6, 2019, at 14:28, David Thake <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

You can certainly sell Cloud PBX without origination and termination.

 

The sip trunk and DID could be sourced by the client from another SIP provider 
while you just handle the PBX setup and maintenance whilst getting a commission 
from the sip trunk provider perhaps... It really depends what you want to do.

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On 6 Apr 2019, at 20:25, Ken Hohhof <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > 
wrote:

I don't understand how you would sell managed cloud PBX without origination and 
termination, seems like it would be part of the package.

If you bill them, and they can make calls to/from the PSTN via the service you 
sell them, I believe that makes you an interconnected VoIP provider.

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Is there any difference?

I know if you sell voip phone lines you have to file 499s and a bunch of other 
things. 

If you’re selling a managed PBX in the cloud to a business customer does that 
still make you a voip provider?  Or only if they don’t have their own 
termination provider and you’re doing the termination for them?
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