Aren't you already getting blame for everything? If not, things have changed for the better.
On Sun, Apr 7, 2019, 7:35 PM Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > Why would using a third party termination provider cause me to get > blamed any more or less? > > If I'm doing my own termination I'm going to be blamed for every call > that gets dropped. > > This is why I've never done VoIP... in a previous life I did... and we > got blamed for every call that got dropped, every echo, etc. > > On 4/7/19 7:31 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > > No way I would consider selling managed or hosted PBX service without > > also selling the origination/termination. You ARE going to get blamed > > for every call that gets dropped or distorted. You *have* to have > > control over that if you want to succeed. It took us a long time to > > get comfortable even thinking about selling services off-network. You > > really don’t want to do that until you have all the skills in place to > > be able to support and troubleshoot both on and off network. > > > > Mark > > > >> On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com > >> <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > >> Why would you is the question. The majority of the money is in the > >> origination and termination. I don't think you could compete in the > >> space without offering it. > >> > >> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 9:31 PM Daniel White <dwh...@atheral.com > >> <mailto:dwh...@atheral.com>> wrote: > >> > >> Yes you can do it and we do offer that to some ISP's that would > >> rather provider their own origination and termination. For the > >> most part, our bulk pricing though beats what an individual ISP > >> can purchase. > >> > >> As long as you do not provide an interconnection to the PSTN, > >> there isn't any regulatory burden. > >> > >> <https://atheral.com/> > >> Daniel White > >> Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations > >> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766 > >> Facebook icon <https://www.facebook.com/getatheral> LinkedIn icon > >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/atheral/> Youtbue icon > >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpPZv-EsGCj8LXfzylwCrjQ> > >> > >> > >> Matt Hoppes wrote on 4/6/19 12:53: > >>> Exactly my thought. You’d connect them to the termination > >>> providers who would bill them directly. > >>> > >>> On Apr 6, 2019, at 14:28, David Thake <dth...@vanilla.net.mt > >>> <mailto:dth...@vanilla.net.mt>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> You can certainly sell Cloud PBX without origination and > >>>> termination. > >>>> > >>>> The sip trunk and DID could be sourced by the client from > >>>> another SIP provider while you just handle the PBX setup and > >>>> maintenance whilst getting a commission from the sip trunk > >>>> provider perhaps... It really depends what you want to do. > >>>> <DAVID.png> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On 6 Apr 2019, at 20:25, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com > >>>>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I don't understand how you would sell managed cloud PBX without > >>>>> origination and termination, seems like it would be part of the > >>>>> package. > >>>>> > >>>>> If you bill them, and they can make calls to/from the PSTN via > >>>>> the service you sell them, I believe that makes you an > >>>>> interconnected VoIP provider. > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com > >>>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 12:56 PM > >>>>> To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > >>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Selling managed PBX vs phone line > >>>>> > >>>>> Is there any difference? > >>>>> > >>>>> I know if you sell voip phone lines you have to file 499s and a > >>>>> bunch of other things. > >>>>> > >>>>> If you’re selling a managed PBX in the cloud to a business > >>>>> customer does that still make you a voip provider? Or only if > >>>>> they don’t have their own termination provider and you’re doing > >>>>> the termination for them? > >>>>> -- > >>>>> AF mailing list > >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> AF mailing list > >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> All email communication is subject to our privacy policy. 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