Yes you can do it and we do offer that to some ISP's that would rather provider their own origination and termination.  For the most part, our bulk pricing though beats what an individual ISP can purchase.

As long as you do not provide an interconnection to the PSTN, there isn't any regulatory burden.

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Matt Hoppes wrote on 4/6/19 12:53:
Exactly my thought. You’d connect them to the termination providers who would bill them directly.

On Apr 6, 2019, at 14:28, David Thake <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

You can certainly sell Cloud PBX without origination and termination.

The sip trunk and DID could be sourced by the client from another SIP provider while you just handle the PBX setup and maintenance whilst getting a commission from the sip trunk provider perhaps... It really depends what you want to do.
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On 6 Apr 2019, at 20:25, Ken Hohhof <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I don't understand how you would sell managed cloud PBX without origination and termination, seems like it would be part of the package.

If you bill them, and they can make calls to/from the PSTN via the service you sell them, I believe that makes you an interconnected VoIP provider.

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Is there any difference?

I know if you sell voip phone lines you have to file 499s and a bunch of other things.

If you’re selling a managed PBX in the cloud to a business customer does that still make you a voip provider?  Or only if they don’t have their own termination provider and you’re doing the termination for them?
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