Why would you is the question. The majority of the money is in the
origination and termination. I don't think you could compete in the space
without offering it.

On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 9:31 PM Daniel White <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes you can do it and we do offer that to some ISP's that would rather
> provider their own origination and termination.  For the most part, our
> bulk pricing though beats what an individual ISP can purchase.
>
> As long as you do not provide an interconnection to the PSTN, there isn't
> any regulatory burden.
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> Matt Hoppes wrote on 4/6/19 12:53:
>
> Exactly my thought. You’d connect them to the termination providers who
> would bill them directly.
>
> On Apr 6, 2019, at 14:28, David Thake <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> You can certainly sell Cloud PBX without origination and termination.
>
> The sip trunk and DID could be sourced by the client from another SIP
> provider while you just handle the PBX setup and maintenance whilst getting
> a commission from the sip trunk provider perhaps... It really depends what
> you want to do.
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> On 6 Apr 2019, at 20:25, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I don't understand how you would sell managed cloud PBX without
> origination and termination, seems like it would be part of the package.
>
> If you bill them, and they can make calls to/from the PSTN via the service
> you sell them, I believe that makes you an interconnected VoIP provider.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 12:56 PM
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> Subject: [AFMUG] Selling managed PBX vs phone line
>
> Is there any difference?
>
> I know if you sell voip phone lines you have to file 499s and a bunch of
> other things.
>
> If you’re selling a managed PBX in the cloud to a business customer does
> that still make you a voip provider?  Or only if they don’t have their own
> termination provider and you’re doing the termination for them?
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