Google Maps has the ability to offline cache map data for nearly any geography you select.
While not the best routing, I can still use Waze when offline (ie: my phone is using Sprint at the moment and I'm on the phone, resulting in no data). ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Andrews" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:47:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck LOL you must always travel in cell phone service. I have been mis-directed by android and apple maps many times. I love having actual GPS dedicated mapping systems. On 11/22/2019 02:39 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I can't imagine that being used by many people. They just need to get > rid of in-car navigation systems and use Android Auto and CarPlay. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>, "Robert > Andrews" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 4:30:56 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck > > I do not have maps on the truck :) I guess that's a feature that was > left out... but I don't use that either, so it wasn't a selling feature. > > On 11/22/19 5:08 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: > > Have they improved the mapping system display? I got in my neighbors > > Tundra and I thought the quality of the mapping system ( not the > > hardware ) was mediocre.. The ui was not what I expected from Toyota... > > > > On 11/22/2019 02:04 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: > >> Oh yeah...I have bluetooth in the Tundra > >> > >> It's one of the reasons we purchased the Tundra... at the time it was > >> the best model for price available. > >> > >> On 11/22/19 4:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >>> Toyota is super nice when it comes to base models. I got a 4 > >>> cylinder Tacoma (should have gotten the v6, it's way too > >>> underpowered) base model and it has touchscreen with bluetooth. > >>> Power windows/locks/etc. > >>> > >>> Porsche on the other hand requires you have something like $8k in > >>> options for that feature. Another $2k if you want the bluetooth to > >>> do audio as well. > >>> > >>> Josh Luthman > >>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>> 1100 Wayne St > >>> Suite 1337 > >>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:56 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>> > >>> It was mostly a dig at the lowest priced option a manufacturer > makes > >>> probably is missing a variety of features one is used to. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- > >>> Mike Hammett > >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > >>> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > > >>> > >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > >>> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > > > >>> > >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > >>> > >>> > >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:53:33 PM > >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck > >>> > >>> Yes Mike, it's a Toyota. Not Pontiac. > >>> > >>> Josh Luthman > >>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>> 1100 Wayne St > >>> Suite 1337 > >>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:51 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Does a $30k truck come with AC? Power windows? Radio? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- > >>> Mike Hammett > >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > >>> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > > >>> > >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > >>> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > > > >>> > >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > >>> > >>> > >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> *To: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>, "AnimalFarm Microwave Users > >>> Group" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:49:15 PM > >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck > >>> > >>> OK... and? Still a far cry from $40 or $50. > >>> > >>> On 11/22/19 3:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > >>> > That's $32,780... > >>> > > >>> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Hoppes > >>> > <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> > <mailto:[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > That’s the current model. > >>> > > >>> > Here’s the bill of sale: > >>> > > >>> > image1.jpeg > >>> > > >>> > On Nov 22, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman > >>> > <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> > >>> > wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> That's $36k, 20% more... > >>> >> > >>> >> Josh Luthman > >>> >> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>> >> 1100 Wayne St > >>> >> Suite 1337 > >>> >> Troy, OH 45373 > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:08 PM Matt Hoppes > >>> >> <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> >> <mailto:[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> I’ll get you the bill of sale when I get back > to the > >>> office. > >>> >> > >>> >> Brand new 2018 Tundra. 100 miles. Never owned. No > >>> issue. > >>> >> > >>> >> Here’s a comparably equipped 2019 for $34k. > >>> >> > >>> >> <image1.png> > >>> >> > >>> >> On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman > >>> >> <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> >> <mailto:[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >>> You think a truck would have sat on the lot for a > >>> year? > >>> >>> Tundras don't sell well, but I don't think they > >>> sell > >>> >>> remarkably bad. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Josh Luthman > >>> >>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>> >>> 1100 Wayne St > >>> >>> Suite 1337 > >>> >>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:38 PM Robert > >>> >>> <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Last year lot sitter, sure.... > >>> >>> > >>> >>> On 11/22/19 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >>> >>>> I seriously doubt you got a new, untitled, > >>> Tundra for > >>> >>>> $30k, Especially with options. There's no > >>> way they're > >>> >>>> doing a 10%+ discount for you or anyone else > >>> with a > >>> >>>> single quantity purchase. I'll believe 30k > >>> when I see > >>> >>>> the bill of sale. > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> Josh Luthman > >>> >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>> >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>> >>>> 1100 Wayne St > >>> >>>> Suite 1337 > >>> >>>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:57 AM Matt Hoppes > >>> >>>> <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> >>>> <mailto:[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> I absolutely know what trucks cost and > >>> $50-$60k is > >>> >>>> way too much. We > >>> >>>> purchased a brand new Toyota Tundra two > >>> years ago > >>> >>>> for $30k... outfitted > >>> >>>> well. > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> On 11/22/19 10:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >>> >>>> > To be consistent with my feelings on > >>> their semi > >>> >>>> truck, as long as the > >>> >>>> > performance, specifications, > >>> reliability, utility > >>> >>>> are as promised, I > >>> >>>> > care much less about how it appears. > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > That $40k price point is nice, though > >>> I'd want at > >>> >>>> least the $50k to have > >>> >>>> > AWD. > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > I've seen people say stuff like, "OMG, > >>> that too > >>> >>>> much money for a truck." > >>> >>>> > Clearly they have no idea what trucks > >>> cost. I > >>> >>>> haven't seen what the > >>> >>>> > electric ATV costs. > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > I also wonder what else changes between > >>> the tiers. > >>> >>>> Adding more motors > >>> >>>> > shouldn't add to the range of the > >>> vehicle, so > >>> >>>> what's happening with the > >>> >>>> > battery, weight, etc. Adding more > >>> batteries > >>> >>>> shouldn't make it faster, so > >>> >>>> > what's up with the extra motors? > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > I'm more willing to admit I don't need > >>> to pull a > >>> >>>> house with my daily > >>> >>>> > driver because I can always get > >>> something from the > >>> >>>> farm. I just want it > >>> >>>> > to be big enough to handle most things. > >>> Hell, even > >>> >>>> the 14k towing would > >>> >>>> > be enough for our Bobcat and trailer. > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > I wonder how trailers work with the > >>> EVs... how > >>> >>>> easy is it to add (or > >>> >>>> > get the option for) gooseneck, fifth > >>> wheel, etc. > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > I do like the hard, lockable tonneau > >>> cover. Maybe > >>> >>>> Rivian had it > >>> >>>> > available and I just forgot. Nice place > >>> to store a > >>> >>>> bunch of tools for a > >>> >>>> > work truck, though no place to add a > >>> ladder rack. > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > I was annoyed they didn't have battery > >>> specs, but > >>> >>>> I suppose that could > >>> >>>> > still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't > know if > >>> they need > >>> >>>> 100 or 110 kw to meet > >>> >>>> > their advertised performance numbers. > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > Weight would be nice to know as well. > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > I'm not surprised on the design. All > >>> else equal, > >>> >>>> I'd probably prefer the > >>> >>>> > Rivian, but let's see how things > >>> actually bare > >>> >>>> out. What's the "mpg" > >>> >>>> > compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be > >>> MPkWh? > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > ----- > >>> >>>> > Mike Hammett > >>> >>>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >>> >>>> <http://www.ics-il.com/> > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > >>> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > > >>> > >>> >>>> > Midwest Internet Exchange > >>> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > >>> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > > > >>> > >>> >>>> > The Brothers WISP > >>> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > >>> >>>> > > >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> >>>> > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> >>>> <mailto:[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> > >>> >>>> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users > Group" > >>> >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> > >>> >>>> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 > >>> 9:25:31 AM > >>> >>>> > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > I was expecting to see some comments > >>> from this > >>> >>>> crowd. Was everyone > >>> >>>> > suitably underwhelmed? Or running out > >>> to place > >>> >>>> your pre-orders? > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > I think I saw one comment that it > looked > >>> like a > >>> >>>> cross between an El > >>> >>>> > Camino and a Pontiac Aztec. It > >>> certainly was not > >>> >>>> what I expected when I > >>> >>>> > heard Tesla was going to bring out an > >>> electric > >>> >>>> truck. It sounds like > >>> >>>> > the 3 motor version will indeed be > fast, > >>> but how > >>> >>>> big a market is there > >>> >>>> > for a fast, expensive, ugly truck? > >>> Maybe more > >>> >>>> than I realize. > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > -- > >>> >>>> > AF mailing list > >>> >>>> > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> >>>> > > >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> -- > >>> >>>> AF mailing list > >>> >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> -- > >>> >>> AF mailing list > >>> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>> >>> > >>> >>> -- > >>> >>> AF mailing list > >>> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>> >> -- > >>> >> AF mailing list > >>> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>> >> > >>> >> -- > >>> >> AF mailing list > >>> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>> > -- > >>> > AF mailing list > >>> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> -- AF mailing list > >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>> > >>> -- AF mailing list > >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>> > >>> > >>> -- AF mailing list > >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>> > >>> -- AF mailing list > >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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