Google Maps has the ability to offline cache map data for nearly any
geography you select.
While not the best routing, I can still use Waze when offline (ie: my
phone is using Sprint at the moment and I'm on the phone, resulting
in no data).
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*From: *"Robert Andrews" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected]
*Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 4:47:45 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
LOL you must always travel in cell phone service. I have been
mis-directed by android and apple maps many times. I love having
actual GPS dedicated mapping systems.
On 11/22/2019 02:39 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> I can't imagine that being used by many people. They just need to get
> rid of in-car navigation systems and use Android Auto and CarPlay.
>
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> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>, "Robert
> Andrews" <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 4:30:56 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
>
> I do not have maps on the truck :) I guess that's a feature that was
> left out... but I don't use that either, so it wasn't a selling
feature.
>
> On 11/22/19 5:08 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
> > Have they improved the mapping system display? I got in my
neighbors
> > Tundra and I thought the quality of the mapping system ( not the
> > hardware ) was mediocre.. The ui was not what I expected from
Toyota...
> >
> > On 11/22/2019 02:04 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> >> Oh yeah...I have bluetooth in the Tundra
> >>
> >> It's one of the reasons we purchased the Tundra... at the time
it was
> >> the best model for price available.
> >>
> >> On 11/22/19 4:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >>> Toyota is super nice when it comes to base models. I got a 4
> >>> cylinder Tacoma (should have gotten the v6, it's way too
> >>> underpowered) base model and it has touchscreen with bluetooth.
> >>> Power windows/locks/etc.
> >>>
> >>> Porsche on the other hand requires you have something like
$8k in
> >>> options for that feature. Another $2k if you want the
bluetooth to
> >>> do audio as well.
> >>>
> >>> Josh Luthman
> >>> Office: 937-552-2340
> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>> Suite 1337
> >>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:56 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It was mostly a dig at the lowest priced option a
manufacturer
> makes
> >>> probably is missing a variety of features one is used to.
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >>> *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:53:33 PM
> >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
> >>>
> >>> Yes Mike, it's a Toyota. Not Pontiac.
> >>>
> >>> Josh Luthman
> >>> Office: 937-552-2340
> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>> Suite 1337
> >>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:51 PM Mike Hammett
<[email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Does a $30k truck come with AC? Power windows? Radio?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >>> *To: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>, "AnimalFarm Microwave Users
> >>> Group" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >>> *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:49:15 PM
> >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
> >>>
> >>> OK... and? Still a far cry from $40 or $50.
> >>>
> >>> On 11/22/19 3:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
> >>> > That's $32,780...
> >>> >
> >>> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Hoppes
> >>> > <[email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>> > <mailto:[email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > That’s the current model.
> >>> >
> >>> > Here’s the bill of sale:
> >>> >
> >>> > image1.jpeg
> >>> >
> >>> > On Nov 22, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman
> >>> > <[email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> That's $36k, 20% more...
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Josh Luthman
> >>> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >>> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >>> >> Suite 1337
> >>> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:08 PM Matt Hoppes
> >>> >> <[email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>> >> <mailto:[email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I’ll get you the bill of sale when I get
back
> to the
> >>> office.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Brand new 2018 Tundra. 100 miles. Never
owned. No
> >>> issue.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Here’s a comparably equipped 2019 for $34k.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> <image1.png>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman
> >>> >> <[email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>> >> <mailto:[email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> You think a truck would have sat on the
lot for a
> >>> year?
> >>> >>> Tundras don't sell well, but I don't
think they
> >>> sell
> >>> >>> remarkably bad.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Josh Luthman
> >>> >>> Office: 937-552-2340
> >>> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>> >>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>> >>> Suite 1337
> >>> >>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:38 PM Robert
> >>> >>> <[email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Last year lot sitter, sure....
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On 11/22/19 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman
wrote:
> >>> >>>> I seriously doubt you got a new,
untitled,
> >>> Tundra for
> >>> >>>> $30k, Especially with options.
There's no
> >>> way they're
> >>> >>>> doing a 10%+ discount for you or
anyone else
> >>> with a
> >>> >>>> single quantity purchase. I'll
believe 30k
> >>> when I see
> >>> >>>> the bill of sale.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Josh Luthman
> >>> >>>> Office: 937-552-2340
> >>> >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>> >>>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>> >>>> Suite 1337
> >>> >>>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:57 AM
Matt Hoppes
> >>> >>>> <[email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> I absolutely know what trucks
cost and
> >>> $50-$60k is
> >>> >>>> way too much. We
> >>> >>>> purchased a brand new Toyota Tundra two
> >>> years ago
> >>> >>>> for $30k... outfitted
> >>> >>>> well.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> On 11/22/19 10:33 AM, Mike
Hammett wrote:
> >>> >>>> > To be consistent with my feelings on
> >>> their semi
> >>> >>>> truck, as long as the
> >>> >>>> > performance, specifications,
> >>> reliability, utility
> >>> >>>> are as promised, I
> >>> >>>> > care much less about how it appears.
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > That $40k price point is nice, though
> >>> I'd want at
> >>> >>>> least the $50k to have
> >>> >>>> > AWD.
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > I've seen people say stuff like, "OMG,
> >>> that too
> >>> >>>> much money for a truck."
> >>> >>>> > Clearly they have no idea what trucks
> >>> cost. I
> >>> >>>> haven't seen what the
> >>> >>>> > electric ATV costs.
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > I also wonder what else changes between
> >>> the tiers.
> >>> >>>> Adding more motors
> >>> >>>> > shouldn't add to the range of the
> >>> vehicle, so
> >>> >>>> what's happening with the
> >>> >>>> > battery, weight, etc. Adding more
> >>> batteries
> >>> >>>> shouldn't make it faster, so
> >>> >>>> > what's up with the extra motors?
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > I'm more willing to admit I don't need
> >>> to pull a
> >>> >>>> house with my daily
> >>> >>>> > driver because I can always get
> >>> something from the
> >>> >>>> farm. I just want it
> >>> >>>> > to be big enough to handle most things.
> >>> Hell, even
> >>> >>>> the 14k towing would
> >>> >>>> > be enough for our Bobcat and trailer.
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > I wonder how trailers work with the
> >>> EVs... how
> >>> >>>> easy is it to add (or
> >>> >>>> > get the option for) gooseneck, fifth
> >>> wheel, etc.
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > I do like the hard, lockable tonneau
> >>> cover. Maybe
> >>> >>>> Rivian had it
> >>> >>>> > available and I just forgot. Nice place
> >>> to store a
> >>> >>>> bunch of tools for a
> >>> >>>> > work truck, though no place to add a
> >>> ladder rack.
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > I was annoyed they didn't have battery
> >>> specs, but
> >>> >>>> I suppose that could
> >>> >>>> > still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't
> know if
> >>> they need
> >>> >>>> 100 or 110 kw to meet
> >>> >>>> > their advertised performance numbers.
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > Weight would be nice to know as well.
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > I'm not surprised on the design. All
> >>> else equal,
> >>> >>>> I'd probably prefer the
> >>> >>>> > Rivian, but let's see how things
> >>> actually bare
> >>> >>>> out. What's the "mpg"
> >>> >>>> > compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be
> >>> MPkWh?
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > -----
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> >>> >>>> > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]
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> >>> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>
> >>> >>>> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users
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> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
> >>> >>>> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019
> >>> 9:25:31 AM
> >>> >>>> > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > I was expecting to see some comments
> >>> from this
> >>> >>>> crowd. Was everyone
> >>> >>>> > suitably underwhelmed? Or running out
> >>> to place
> >>> >>>> your pre-orders?
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > I think I saw one comment that it
> looked
> >>> like a
> >>> >>>> cross between an El
> >>> >>>> > Camino and a Pontiac Aztec. It
> >>> certainly was not
> >>> >>>> what I expected when I
> >>> >>>> > heard Tesla was going to bring out an
> >>> electric
> >>> >>>> truck. It sounds like
> >>> >>>> > the 3 motor version will indeed be
> fast,
> >>> but how
> >>> >>>> big a market is there
> >>> >>>> > for a fast, expensive, ugly truck?
> >>> Maybe more
> >>> >>>> than I realize.
> >>> >>>> >
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