I can't imagine that being used by many people. They just need to get rid of in-car navigation systems and use Android Auto and CarPlay.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>, "Robert Andrews" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:30:56 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck I do not have maps on the truck :) I guess that's a feature that was left out... but I don't use that either, so it wasn't a selling feature. On 11/22/19 5:08 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: > Have they improved the mapping system display? I got in my neighbors > Tundra and I thought the quality of the mapping system ( not the > hardware ) was mediocre.. The ui was not what I expected from Toyota... > > On 11/22/2019 02:04 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >> Oh yeah...I have bluetooth in the Tundra >> >> It's one of the reasons we purchased the Tundra... at the time it was >> the best model for price available. >> >> On 11/22/19 4:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> Toyota is super nice when it comes to base models. I got a 4 >>> cylinder Tacoma (should have gotten the v6, it's way too >>> underpowered) base model and it has touchscreen with bluetooth. >>> Power windows/locks/etc. >>> >>> Porsche on the other hand requires you have something like $8k in >>> options for that feature. Another $2k if you want the bluetooth to >>> do audio as well. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:56 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> It was mostly a dig at the lowest priced option a manufacturer makes >>> probably is missing a variety of features one is used to. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> >>> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> >>> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:53:33 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck >>> >>> Yes Mike, it's a Toyota. Not Pontiac. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:51 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Does a $30k truck come with AC? Power windows? Radio? >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> >>> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> >>> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> *To: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>, "AnimalFarm Microwave Users >>> Group" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:49:15 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck >>> >>> OK... and? Still a far cry from $40 or $50. >>> >>> On 11/22/19 3:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: >>> > That's $32,780... >>> > >>> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Hoppes >>> > <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> > <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >>> > >>> > That’s the current model. >>> > >>> > Here’s the bill of sale: >>> > >>> > image1.jpeg >>> > >>> > On Nov 22, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman >>> > <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> That's $36k, 20% more... >>> >> >>> >> Josh Luthman >>> >> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> >> 1100 Wayne St >>> >> Suite 1337 >>> >> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:08 PM Matt Hoppes >>> >> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> I’ll get you the bill of sale when I get back to the >>> office. >>> >> >>> >> Brand new 2018 Tundra. 100 miles. Never owned. No >>> issue. >>> >> >>> >> Here’s a comparably equipped 2019 for $34k. >>> >> >>> >> <image1.png> >>> >> >>> >> On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman >>> >> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> You think a truck would have sat on the lot for a >>> year? >>> >>> Tundras don't sell well, but I don't think they >>> sell >>> >>> remarkably bad. >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> >>> Suite 1337 >>> >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:38 PM Robert >>> >>> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Last year lot sitter, sure.... >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/22/19 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> >>>> I seriously doubt you got a new, untitled, >>> Tundra for >>> >>>> $30k, Especially with options. There's no >>> way they're >>> >>>> doing a 10%+ discount for you or anyone else >>> with a >>> >>>> single quantity purchase. I'll believe 30k >>> when I see >>> >>>> the bill of sale. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>> >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>> >>>> Suite 1337 >>> >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:57 AM Matt Hoppes >>> >>>> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>>> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I absolutely know what trucks cost and >>> $50-$60k is >>> >>>> way too much. We >>> >>>> purchased a brand new Toyota Tundra two >>> years ago >>> >>>> for $30k... outfitted >>> >>>> well. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On 11/22/19 10:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: >>> >>>> > To be consistent with my feelings on >>> their semi >>> >>>> truck, as long as the >>> >>>> > performance, specifications, >>> reliability, utility >>> >>>> are as promised, I >>> >>>> > care much less about how it appears. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > That $40k price point is nice, though >>> I'd want at >>> >>>> least the $50k to have >>> >>>> > AWD. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > I've seen people say stuff like, "OMG, >>> that too >>> >>>> much money for a truck." >>> >>>> > Clearly they have no idea what trucks >>> cost. I >>> >>>> haven't seen what the >>> >>>> > electric ATV costs. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > I also wonder what else changes between >>> the tiers. >>> >>>> Adding more motors >>> >>>> > shouldn't add to the range of the >>> vehicle, so >>> >>>> what's happening with the >>> >>>> > battery, weight, etc. Adding more >>> batteries >>> >>>> shouldn't make it faster, so >>> >>>> > what's up with the extra motors? >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > I'm more willing to admit I don't need >>> to pull a >>> >>>> house with my daily >>> >>>> > driver because I can always get >>> something from the >>> >>>> farm. I just want it >>> >>>> > to be big enough to handle most things. >>> Hell, even >>> >>>> the 14k towing would >>> >>>> > be enough for our Bobcat and trailer. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > I wonder how trailers work with the >>> EVs... how >>> >>>> easy is it to add (or >>> >>>> > get the option for) gooseneck, fifth >>> wheel, etc. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > I do like the hard, lockable tonneau >>> cover. Maybe >>> >>>> Rivian had it >>> >>>> > available and I just forgot. Nice place >>> to store a >>> >>>> bunch of tools for a >>> >>>> > work truck, though no place to add a >>> ladder rack. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > I was annoyed they didn't have battery >>> specs, but >>> >>>> I suppose that could >>> >>>> > still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't know if >>> they need >>> >>>> 100 or 110 kw to meet >>> >>>> > their advertised performance numbers. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > Weight would be nice to know as well. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > I'm not surprised on the design. All >>> else equal, >>> >>>> I'd probably prefer the >>> >>>> > Rivian, but let's see how things >>> actually bare >>> >>>> out. What's the "mpg" >>> >>>> > compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be >>> MPkWh? >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > ----- >>> >>>> > Mike Hammett >>> >>>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> >>>> <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> >>> >>> >>>> > Midwest Internet Exchange >>> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> >>> >>> >>>> > The Brothers WISP >>> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> >>>> > >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>>> > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>>> <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> >>> >>>> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >>> >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >>> >>>> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 >>> 9:25:31 AM >>> >>>> > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > I was expecting to see some comments >>> from this >>> >>>> crowd. Was everyone >>> >>>> > suitably underwhelmed? Or running out >>> to place >>> >>>> your pre-orders? >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > I think I saw one comment that it looked >>> like a >>> >>>> cross between an El >>> >>>> > Camino and a Pontiac Aztec. It >>> certainly was not >>> >>>> what I expected when I >>> >>>> > heard Tesla was going to bring out an >>> electric >>> >>>> truck. 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