I can't imagine that being used by many people. They just need to get
rid of in-car navigation systems and use Android Auto and CarPlay.
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*From: *"Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]>
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>, "Robert
Andrews" <[email protected]>
*Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 4:30:56 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
I do not have maps on the truck :) I guess that's a feature that was
left out... but I don't use that either, so it wasn't a selling feature.
On 11/22/19 5:08 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
> Have they improved the mapping system display? I got in my neighbors
> Tundra and I thought the quality of the mapping system ( not the
> hardware ) was mediocre.. The ui was not what I expected from Toyota...
>
> On 11/22/2019 02:04 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> Oh yeah...I have bluetooth in the Tundra
>>
>> It's one of the reasons we purchased the Tundra... at the time it was
>> the best model for price available.
>>
>> On 11/22/19 4:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>> Toyota is super nice when it comes to base models. I got a 4
>>> cylinder Tacoma (should have gotten the v6, it's way too
>>> underpowered) base model and it has touchscreen with bluetooth.
>>> Power windows/locks/etc.
>>>
>>> Porsche on the other hand requires you have something like $8k in
>>> options for that feature. Another $2k if you want the bluetooth to
>>> do audio as well.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:56 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It was mostly a dig at the lowest priced option a manufacturer
makes
>>> probably is missing a variety of features one is used to.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:53:33 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
>>>
>>> Yes Mike, it's a Toyota. Not Pontiac.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:51 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Does a $30k truck come with AC? Power windows? Radio?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> *To: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>, "AnimalFarm Microwave Users
>>> Group" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:49:15 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
>>>
>>> OK... and? Still a far cry from $40 or $50.
>>>
>>> On 11/22/19 3:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>> > That's $32,780...
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Hoppes
>>> > <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> > <mailto:[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > That’s the current model.
>>> >
>>> > Here’s the bill of sale:
>>> >
>>> > image1.jpeg
>>> >
>>> > On Nov 22, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman
>>> > <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> <mailto:[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> That's $36k, 20% more...
>>> >>
>>> >> Josh Luthman
>>> >> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> >> 1100 Wayne St
>>> >> Suite 1337
>>> >> Troy, OH 45373
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:08 PM Matt Hoppes
>>> >> <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I’ll get you the bill of sale when I get back
to the
>>> office.
>>> >>
>>> >> Brand new 2018 Tundra. 100 miles. Never owned. No
>>> issue.
>>> >>
>>> >> Here’s a comparably equipped 2019 for $34k.
>>> >>
>>> >> <image1.png>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman
>>> >> <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> You think a truck would have sat on the lot for a
>>> year?
>>> >>> Tundras don't sell well, but I don't think they
>>> sell
>>> >>> remarkably bad.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Josh Luthman
>>> >>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> >>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> >>> Suite 1337
>>> >>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:38 PM Robert
>>> >>> <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Last year lot sitter, sure....
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 11/22/19 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>> >>>> I seriously doubt you got a new, untitled,
>>> Tundra for
>>> >>>> $30k, Especially with options. There's no
>>> way they're
>>> >>>> doing a 10%+ discount for you or anyone else
>>> with a
>>> >>>> single quantity purchase. I'll believe 30k
>>> when I see
>>> >>>> the bill of sale.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Josh Luthman
>>> >>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> >>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> >>>> Suite 1337
>>> >>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:57 AM Matt Hoppes
>>> >>>> <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I absolutely know what trucks cost and
>>> $50-$60k is
>>> >>>> way too much. We
>>> >>>> purchased a brand new Toyota Tundra two
>>> years ago
>>> >>>> for $30k... outfitted
>>> >>>> well.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On 11/22/19 10:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>> >>>> > To be consistent with my feelings on
>>> their semi
>>> >>>> truck, as long as the
>>> >>>> > performance, specifications,
>>> reliability, utility
>>> >>>> are as promised, I
>>> >>>> > care much less about how it appears.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > That $40k price point is nice, though
>>> I'd want at
>>> >>>> least the $50k to have
>>> >>>> > AWD.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > I've seen people say stuff like, "OMG,
>>> that too
>>> >>>> much money for a truck."
>>> >>>> > Clearly they have no idea what trucks
>>> cost. I
>>> >>>> haven't seen what the
>>> >>>> > electric ATV costs.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > I also wonder what else changes between
>>> the tiers.
>>> >>>> Adding more motors
>>> >>>> > shouldn't add to the range of the
>>> vehicle, so
>>> >>>> what's happening with the
>>> >>>> > battery, weight, etc. Adding more
>>> batteries
>>> >>>> shouldn't make it faster, so
>>> >>>> > what's up with the extra motors?
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > I'm more willing to admit I don't need
>>> to pull a
>>> >>>> house with my daily
>>> >>>> > driver because I can always get
>>> something from the
>>> >>>> farm. I just want it
>>> >>>> > to be big enough to handle most things.
>>> Hell, even
>>> >>>> the 14k towing would
>>> >>>> > be enough for our Bobcat and trailer.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > I wonder how trailers work with the
>>> EVs... how
>>> >>>> easy is it to add (or
>>> >>>> > get the option for) gooseneck, fifth
>>> wheel, etc.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > I do like the hard, lockable tonneau
>>> cover. Maybe
>>> >>>> Rivian had it
>>> >>>> > available and I just forgot. Nice place
>>> to store a
>>> >>>> bunch of tools for a
>>> >>>> > work truck, though no place to add a
>>> ladder rack.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > I was annoyed they didn't have battery
>>> specs, but
>>> >>>> I suppose that could
>>> >>>> > still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't
know if
>>> they need
>>> >>>> 100 or 110 kw to meet
>>> >>>> > their advertised performance numbers.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > Weight would be nice to know as well.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > I'm not surprised on the design. All
>>> else equal,
>>> >>>> I'd probably prefer the
>>> >>>> > Rivian, but let's see how things
>>> actually bare
>>> >>>> out. What's the "mpg"
>>> >>>> > compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be
>>> MPkWh?
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > -----
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>>> >>>> > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>> >>>> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users
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>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>> >>>> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019
>>> 9:25:31 AM
>>> >>>> > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > I was expecting to see some comments
>>> from this
>>> >>>> crowd. Was everyone
>>> >>>> > suitably underwhelmed? Or running out
>>> to place
>>> >>>> your pre-orders?
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > I think I saw one comment that it
looked
>>> like a
>>> >>>> cross between an El
>>> >>>> > Camino and a Pontiac Aztec. It
>>> certainly was not
>>> >>>> what I expected when I
>>> >>>> > heard Tesla was going to bring out an
>>> electric
>>> >>>> truck. It sounds like
>>> >>>> > the 3 motor version will indeed be
fast,
>>> but how
>>> >>>> big a market is there
>>> >>>> > for a fast, expensive, ugly truck?
>>> Maybe more
>>> >>>> than I realize.
>>> >>>> >
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