At least not in the subject line On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 2:24 PM James Howard <[email protected]> wrote:
> Are you saying that UBNT is one of the 4 letter words that Chuck said we > need to stop using? > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones > *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 2:17 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB > > > > it doesnt have to, all you have to do is accept that butter is a primary > food group and kale has no business on a plate. Fish Food is for fish, not > people. That truly is the only way to move forward. That and not using UBNT > > > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:12 PM Cameron Crum <[email protected]> wrote: > > Aaaanddd it just keeps going. > > > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:07 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: > > You can call Godwin's law if you want to, but I am going to draw a certain > parallel with history: > > A lot of people in Germany were convinced in their heart of hearts that > certain groups of people were destroying their country: Jews, Communists, > Slavs, Gypsies, etc. > > A lot of people in this country are now convinced in their heart of hearts > that certain groups of people are destroying their country: pedophiles, > communists, "elites", the gay agenda, Hispanic migrants, etc. > > The parallel is that they were utterly, factually wrong in both cases, but > in both cases they were so sure of their correctness that they were willing > to take drastic action. As long as people cling to their alternative set > of facts the logical conclusion will be that they have to take action to > stop the evil pedophile, communist, etc people who are destroying their > country. > > You're thinking they've blown off steam and it's over, and I hope you're > right, but I think it's just starting. > > > > On 1/7/2021 2:54 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > So, since I have the bully-pulpit I will unfairly fire a final shot and > then obey my own Lent proclamation. > > > > My thoughts behind my post yesterday were along these lines: > > We have had hundreds if not thousands of protests in DC. > > Pretty big one in 1812 that burned down the Capitol building... > > Politics have protests. > > 1968 was another banner year. Lots of folks killed that year. > > > > You and I obviously feel differently about an attack on the democracy. > > > > To me, this was a bunch of rednecks trying to occupy a federal building > like the Bundys did in Oregon. Blowing off steam. The capitol building > is a public place. If you behave yourself you normally have pretty much > free run of the place as a visitor. > > > > Surprised the cops didn’t shoot more of them but still, political > gatherings and protests are part of our rights to assemble. We want the > cops to deescalate. I think they held themselves in check pretty well > yesterday. > > > > In my opinion it was not a “literal attack on the heart of our democracy” > because there was NO WAY it could have succeeded. But half the news media > tried to make the case that it was. > > > > The worst thing they could have done was to delay a pro-forma procedure. > And they delayed it. Even if they had occupied the capitol, the lawmakers > would have convened somewhere else and done their job. If they had killed > all the lawmakers, there is a procedure for the states to send new ones. > > > > We have a pretty self healing system here. Stand back and let them spend > their pent up anger. Not helping much that POTUS enabled/encouraged it > but, hey, he is gone. His legacy is crap, this just made it more crap. > He will become a worldwide pariah. That will amuse me. > > > > So while you see one thing, I see a different thing. I see folks that get > themselves worked up by 4chan and Qanon and Fox and Rush. Folks itching > for a fight. Folks that never learned how to get along with others. So > the sharks and jets had a rumble. Now it is over. > > > > But I stand by my metric of counting the magnitude of a riot. People > times time + damage caused. Who cares why they were rioting, these things > are measurable. Science B*tch. > > > > > > > > *From:* Carl Peterson > > *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 12:35 PM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB > > > > I shouldn't have used "BS". > > > > As others have pointed out, one was a literal attack on the heart of our > democracy, encouraged and incited (IMHO) by the president of our country. > Not much can come close to that. You could burn all of Portland and it > wouldn't come close. Then again I care a lot more about our democracy then > I care about Portland. > > > > Just say what the rules re OT politics are. We will follow them. > > > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 1:24 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I could argue number of people involved, number of days in protest, number > or people hurt, number of cops hurt, $ of damage done etc etc and compare > the two by the numbers. > > > > Pretty sure I am right. Just crunch the numbers. There is no “side” to > simple counting of participants times time. > > > > But to you my comment “one sided inflammatory BS” . > > > > Sorry I offered ANY opinion or commentary. > > My comment came very late in the day, the political argument started far > earlier. > > > > > > > > *From:* Carl Peterson > > *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 12:14 PM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB > > > > Chuck, > > > > I know it is your list and your rules, but you can't say crap like "The DC > crap today does not hold a candle in magnitude to the Portland and Seattle > crap largely done by the other side. Give and take." and not expect it to > start a political argument. I think you are abundantly and dangerously > wrong about that but I'm (mostly) holding my tongue. We can't have a list > where one sided inflammatory BS like that is allowed but countering it is > not. We either allow political discussions, which I'm fine with, or we > make a no politics rule. The latter seems to be the best option as there > are too many brilliant minds who we will lose if we keep it up. > > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:37 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Sorry. I don’t want to go back to the days of lent, but we have to remain > civil to do so. > > > > The DC crap today does not hold a candle in magnitude to the Portland and > Seattle crap largely done by the other side. Give and take. > > > > Folks wanna blow off steam. It will be history tomorrow. > > > > No need to pollute our list here with that energy, from either side. > > > > *From:* Steve Jones > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 6, 2021 3:32 PM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB > > > > youre no fun dad > > > > Lent? > > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:31 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Kill thread. We had been well behaved but nobody wants to see a bunch of > F words in a subject line. There have been complaints. > > > > *From:* Mathew Howard > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 6, 2021 3:23 PM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fucking Bullshit > > > > That's the real problem. I've come to the conclusion that almost no > so-called news having anything to do with politics is honest or reliable, > no matter which side it comes from. Almost all of it is slanted (if not > outright dishonest) to either fit their own view or manipulate their > consumers into supporting a particular agenda. Unfortunately, there seems > to be very little that can be done to fix it. > > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:17 PM Craig House <[email protected]> > wrote: > > " a nugget of truth with a layer of bullshit on top" Is exactly how I > take every bit of news from every outlet on every station. It is even > more the case when the source is a politician or anyone with a political > agenda. This includes most of the people on this list. Very few on > either side can really provide an objective argument on politics today. > I'd include myself in that group therefore I tend to just delete or not > reply to these group messages because it only furthers the divide. I > honestly dont see any long term solution to the divide we have today. > Mainstream media isn't going to help. Congress isn't going to help and > Trump isn't going to help. Neither is anyone's opinion on this list > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Wednesday, January 6, 2021 4:09:22 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fucking Bullshit > > > > Look at the evidence closely and in each case you'll find a nugget of > truth with a layer of bullshit on top. That so many people are so > thoroughly fooled by it is the most distressing part. Look closer. Stop > being a fool. > > The "coup" is when the loser thinks he can win by pretending hard enough. > > > > On 1/6/2021 5:05 PM, justsumname wrote: > > an election that is not conducted according to law is not an election. > it's a coup. > > Worse... if the 'election' is not transparent, verifiable, and treats > every voter the same, it's not an "election". > > Worse ... if poll watchers are bullied and physically threatened... that > is intolerable. > > > > hereistheevidence.com --- in case you dare open your mind to truth > > > > Patton was correct, and so was that McCarthy guy, who was probably a > commie plant because he did a great job discrediting 'his' message. > > > > All that is left is communism or war. That was the plan all along and > only 'crazy' people -- and people who escaped communist societies to come > warn us -- saw it or believed in it. > > > > I'll sign off with this, because this is probably The End: > > > > “In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the > purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to > inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to > reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are > being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to > repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of > probity. To assent to obvious lies is...in some small way to become evil > oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even > destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if > you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended > to.” ~ Theodore Dalrymple > > > > You arrogant asses, you've killed us! > > -- > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:30 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> > wrote: > > go drink some tecate, youre losing your mind > > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 3:26 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Did you just hear his tweeter video bullshit? Fuck Trump... Kruchev > predicted it... Trump enabled it. > > > > Go ahead and get off this list > > Fuck Trump and his Trumpicans... > > This is an Insurrection..Rudy called for trial by combat, Trump said it > was going to be wild ... > > So fuck them to hell. > > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021, 2:11 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> > wrote: > > IKR, slides biden is demanding potus go on national TV to quell it, unlike > during the biden obama administration when he didnt demand the same. god > this is funny. sad they havent shot more of these mopes today and > historically > > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 2:50 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> > wrote: > > WTF...third world country tactics... > > Insurrection... > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > ------------------------------ > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > ------------------------------ > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > -- > > Carl Peterson > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > ------------------------------ > > *Total Control Panel* > > Login <https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net> > > To: [email protected] > <https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993&domain=litewire.net> > > From: [email protected] > > *You received this message because the domain afmug.com <http://afmug.com> > is on your allow list.* > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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