Sorry good chuck, but bad chuck is spitting fighting words. Its come to a duel
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 7:13 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote: > LENT! > > *From:* Chuck Macenski > *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 6:01 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB > > UBNT UBNT UBNT UBNT > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 5:12 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I hated sociology when I was in college, but had to take it. I think >> sociology now would be fascinating. Think about how far we have degraded >> as a society. Of all people, the people on this list should not be >> surprised of where we are at. >> >> There has always been conspiracy theories. Bigfoot, Area 51, JFK, etc. >> But in the pre-internet days, you really had to want to be a conspiracy >> person to get sucked in. You had to subscribe to magazines, you had to >> find books at the store or library. You really had to be dedicated to that >> conspiracy. Most considered them urban legends, only a few took the deep >> dive. It also helped that 99% of the news was centralized. You watched a >> certain channel because you liked the person doing the reporting , not the >> news itself. If there was spin, it was mostly all spun in the same >> direction. >> >> Then came the Internet. Now we have BBS and chat rooms where these >> conspiracy people can virtually meet. Still not an issue because a >> majority of the population is still getting their news from a centralized >> place. CNN at this point was still main stream and in inline with the >> networks. >> >> Then AOL comes along and everyone starts getting on the Internet. Things >> start getting a little worst. Remember Bonsai Kitten. Hey, its on the >> Internet so it is true. Forums start popping up, some people start >> building their own websites, e-mail is becoming more popular. It's dial >> up, still takes a lot of work to get involved with the conspiracy guys. >> But now you have a bit easier access to the rabbit hole. Most news is >> still consumed via TV and Newspapers. Most events are still reported >> accurately. >> >> Then dedicated always on Internet shows up along with social media. This >> begins the downward spiral. No more dial up. You can create any type of >> bat shit crazy FB group/page. You can post any type of video on youtube. >> Now that rabbit hole is getting easier to navigate. You can start blogging >> or vlogging. You can setup websites via godaddy in a few clicks. More >> people are starting to get their news via the Internet. The news >> organizations start seeing this and begin their presence online. News is >> starting to get a bit more blurry as some of these virtual news >> organizations start competing with the old timers. >> >> Then we get smart phones, snapchat, instagram, etc. Now we have access >> to that rabbit hole wherever we are. There is almost zero effort needed to >> make a post to social media. Anyone with a selfie stick and a smart phone >> is now a reporter. Virtual "news" channels streamed from someones basement >> are now on ROKU or FireStick. There is no more centralize news. >> Everything is an opinion story. Old school news outlets have to stop being >> independent and start leaning one way or another to survive in the new >> age. All that matters now is followers, eyeballs and ad revenue. Keep >> your eyeballs worked up as much as possible, so they come back or go deeper >> into the rabbit hole. >> >> As I said of all people, we on this list should not be surprised where we >> are as a country. We watched this develop over the last 20+ years. >> Unfortunately, I really don't see how it gets better. There was always >> some fringe groups out there, but now there is no such thing as fringe. >> >> Everyone has now been divided into tribes. Red tribe, Blue tribe, LGQBT >> tribe, BLM tribe, Proud Boys tribe, Christian tribe, etc. With social >> media we are now free to associated with only the people that agree with >> us. We surround ourselves with yes men. We rarely hear "The Rest of the >> Story". Our believes are confirmed and reinforced each and every day until >> we are willing to die for them. Chris Rock in the movie Dogma had a great >> quote "I just think it's better to have an idea. You can change an idea; >> changing a belief is trickier. People die for it, people kill for it." >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Mark mailto:[email protected] >> >> Myakka Technologies, Inc. >> www.Myakka.com >> >> ------ >> >> Thursday, January 7, 2021, 2:37:53 PM, you wrote: >> >> >> It seems like it should be pretty obvious to everyone at this point that >> no matter what is said on either side of these political issues that >> nothing is going to change the opinions and beliefs of people on the other >> side. No matter how much “proof” either side has to show that they are >> right, no one is going to change their opinion. I suppose there are always >> some people who straddle the fence (just watch out if you slip and it’s a >> picket or razor blade fence you’re straddling!) and might be swayed by >> something they see, but the reality is that nothing is gained by anyone by >> these conversations on a list like this. In fact, much is lost…….. >> hopefully those that unsubscribed will come back. Personally, as long as >> political discussions don’t get so vicious as they’ve been at times, I find >> many of them entertaining. Overall though they seem to have caused more >> damage to this group than any benefit they’ve ever given. >> >> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 1:24 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB >> >> I could argue number of people involved, number of days in protest, >> number or people hurt, number of cops hurt, $ of damage done etc etc and >> compare the two by the numbers. >> >> Pretty sure I am right. Just crunch the numbers. There is no “side” to >> simple counting of participants times time. >> >> But to you my comment “one sided inflammatory BS” . >> >> Sorry I offered ANY opinion or commentary. >> My comment came very late in the day, the political argument started far >> earlier. >> >> >> >> *From:* Carl Peterson >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 12:14 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB >> >> Chuck, >> >> I know it is your list and your rules, but you can't say crap like "The >> DC crap today does not hold a candle in magnitude to the Portland and >> Seattle crap largely done by the other side. Give and take." and not >> expect it to start a political argument. I think you are abundantly and >> dangerously wrong about that but I'm (mostly) holding my tongue. We can't >> have a list where one sided inflammatory BS like that is allowed but >> countering it is not. We either allow political discussions, which I'm >> fine with, or we make a no politics rule. The latter seems to be the best >> option as there are too many brilliant minds who we will lose if we keep it >> up. >> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:37 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Sorry. I don’t want to go back to the days of lent, but we have to >> remain civil to do so. >> >> The DC crap today does not hold a candle in magnitude to the Portland and >> Seattle crap largely done by the other side. Give and take. >> >> Folks wanna blow off steam. It will be history tomorrow. >> >> No need to pollute our list here with that energy, from either side. >> >> *From:* Steve Jones >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 6, 2021 3:32 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB >> >> youre no fun dad >> >> Lent? >> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:31 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Kill thread. We had been well behaved but nobody wants to see a bunch of >> F words in a subject line. There have been complaints. >> >> *From:* Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 6, 2021 3:23 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fucking Bullshit >> >> That's the real problem. I've come to the conclusion that almost no >> so-called news having anything to do with politics is honest or reliable, >> no matter which side it comes from. Almost all of it is slanted (if not >> outright dishonest) to either fit their own view or manipulate their >> consumers into supporting a particular agenda. Unfortunately, there seems >> to be very little that can be done to fix it. >> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:17 PM Craig House <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> " a nugget of truth with a layer of bullshit on top" Is exactly how I >> take every bit of news from every outlet on every station. It is even >> more the case when the source is a politician or anyone with a political >> agenda. This includes most of the people on this list. Very few on >> either side can really provide an objective argument on politics today. >> I'd include myself in that group therefore I tend to just delete or not >> reply to these group messages because it only furthers the divide. I >> honestly dont see any long term solution to the divide we have today. >> Mainstream media isn't going to help. Congress isn't going to help and >> Trump isn't going to help. Neither is anyone's opinion on this list >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 6, 2021 4:09:22 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fucking Bullshit >> >> Look at the evidence closely and in each case you'll find a nugget of >> truth with a layer of bullshit on top. That so many people are so >> thoroughly fooled by it is the most distressing part. Look closer. Stop >> being a fool. >> The "coup" is when the loser thinks he can win by pretending hard enough. >> >> On 1/6/2021 5:05 PM, justsumname wrote: >> >> an election that is not conducted according to law is not an election. >> it's a coup. >> Worse... if the 'election' is not transparent, verifiable, and treats >> every voter the same, it's not an "election". >> Worse ... if poll watchers are bullied and physically threatened... that >> is intolerable. >> >> hereistheevidence.com --- in case you dare open your mind to truth >> >> Patton was correct, and so was that McCarthy guy, who was probably a >> commie plant because he did a great job discrediting 'his' message. >> >> All that is left is communism or war. That was the plan all along and >> only 'crazy' people -- and people who escaped communist societies to come >> warn us -- saw it or believed in it. >> >> I'll sign off with this, because this is probably The End: >> >> “In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the >> purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to >> inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to >> reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are >> being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to >> repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of >> probity. To assent to obvious lies is...in some small way to become evil >> oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even >> destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if >> you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended >> to.” ~ Theodore Dalrymple >> >> You arrogant asses, you've killed us! >> -- >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:30 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> go drink some tecate, youre losing your mind >> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 3:26 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Did you just hear his tweeter video bullshit? Fuck Trump... Kruchev >> predicted it... Trump enabled it. >> >> Go ahead and get off this list >> Fuck Trump and his Trumpicans... >> This is an Insurrection..Rudy called for trial by combat, Trump said it >> was going to be wild ... >> So fuck them to hell. >> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021, 2:11 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> IKR, slides biden is demanding potus go on national TV to quell it, >> unlike during the biden obama administration when he didnt demand the same. >> god this is funny. sad they havent shot more of these mopes today and >> historically >> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 2:50 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> WTF...third world country tactics... >> Insurrection... >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com-- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com-- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com-- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> ------------------------------ >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> ------------------------------ >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> Carl Peterson >> >> ------------------------------ >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> ------------------------------ >> *Total Control Panel* >> Login <https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net> >> To: [email protected] >> <https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993&domain=litewire.net> >> From: [email protected] >> >> *You received this message because the domain afmug.com >> <http://afmug.com> is on your allow list.* >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
-- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
