IF we actually got functioning
Fusion, the greatest benefit would be being able to just
forget about all these places... Take away the
petrodollar and they would blow away in the desert
winds...
On 10/24/25 9:28 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Yemen
has a 10 year old civil war, partly a proxy war
between Iran and the Saudis. Yemen was formed by
the merger of North Yemen and South Yemen, the
latter was a former British colony.
The
Houthis are technically a “movement” but they
control the capital and much of the territory and
have their own government structure. The
internationally recognized and Saudi supported
government moved to Adan in the south after the
Houthi revolution or coup. It looks to me like the
split might be roughly the former North Yemen under
control of the Houthis and the former South Yemen
under control of the internationally recognized
government. I seem to remember that the Houthis
were threatening to take control of the whole
country when the Saudis intervened. But the Saudis
were mainly just bombing stuff.
The
Houthis are Iranian puppets so you could compare
them to Hezbollah, but maybe more like
revolutionaries, they control a good chunk of
Yemen. Not nice people.
But
Yemen is a mess. I think I read the British left
because of widespread terrorism and that was decades
ago. If a giant sinkhole swallowed the whole place,
we would probably say good riddance.
From: AF
<[email protected]>On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Friday, October 24, 2025 10:08 AM To:[email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up
boats in the Pacific
Are the Houthis an actual country, or just another
Al-Qaeda kind of group?
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 10/24/2025 7:53 AM, Ken Hohhof
wrote:
So
are the Houthis justified sinking vessels in the
Red Sea from companies and countries that support
Israel’s war in Gaza?
From: AF
<[email protected]>On Behalf Of Carl Peterson Sent: Friday, October 24, 2025 9:40 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up
boats in the Pacific
The Daily had a really good bit
on this yesterday. Not particularly about blowing
up boats but about the competing interests in the
Trump administration re Venezuela. It's a great
30 min listen.
Background: Maduro lost the
last election in a landslide (30%/70%) but
refused to cede power.
TLDL:
Trump wanted to cut a deal
and was working on it but Rubio won out and is
focused on regime change.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 9:33PM Steve Jones
<[email protected]>
wrote:
Heh
On Thu, Oct 23, 2025,
9:13PM Chuck McCown
<[email protected]>
wrote:
Might
be safer to have a Maple Leaf flag.
You could always run the stars and
bars, at least they would presume you
would be armed and would fight.
From: AF
[mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Mark
Radabaugh Sent: Thursday, October 23,
2025 7:41 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave
Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] now
we're blowing up boats in the
Pacific
So that American flag
on the back is going to protect me from
the various other countries that decide
to even up the score?
From: AF
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Mark
Radabaugh Sent: Thursday,
October 23, 2025 6:57
AM To: AnimalFarm
Microwave Users Group
<[email protected]> Subject: Re:
[AFMUG] now we're
blowing up boats in
the Pacific
Someday I
would really like to be able
to sail around the Caribbean
and South America without
having to worry about being
randomly blown out of the
water for no reason at all.
“Well, the US said it was
OK to kill people in
international waters”.
Mark
On
Oct 23, 2025, at
1:31AM, Jason
McKemie <[email protected]>
wrote:
It
seems very telling
that when they
blew up a boat and
people survived,
they sent them
back to their home
country vs
prosecuting them.
You can't
introduce that
testimony into the
public record.
Replying to myself,
which is
perhaps a sign
I should be in
therapy, but I
just realized
one reason why
the Coast
Guard is
underappreciated
or at least
unknown
compared to
Army, Navy,
Air Force and
Marines. They
are part of
DHS not DOD.
But now that DOD is
calling itself
the Department
of War, maybe
DHS is just
fine.
Although one
is Hegseth and
the other is
Noem, so flip
a coin.
Coast Guard is also
much smaller,
has a smaller
budget, and a
much smaller
PR budget. No
money to toot
their own
horn.
From: AF
<[email protected]>
On Behalf
Of Ken
Hohhof Sent:
Wednesday,
October 22,
2025 10:50 PM To:
'AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users Group'
<[email protected]> Subject:
Re: [AFMUG]
now we're
blowing up
boats in the
Pacific
Yeah, but if it’s on
the ocean, I’d
prefer to see
a Hawaii Five
0 style
chase. With
McGarrett in a
speedboat, and
at the end he
says “book
‘em, Danno”.
Besides, I think the
Coasties are
an
underappreciated
branch of the
US military.
From: AF
<[email protected]>
On Behalf
Of Steve
Jones Sent:
Wednesday,
October 22,
2025 8:31 PM To:
AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users Group
<[email protected]> Subject:
Re: [AFMUG]
now we're
blowing up
boats in the
Pacific
I prefer to see cartels bombed. When they started
moving the
fent, they
chose bombs. A
little nose
candy here and
there, some
dope, a little
crystal, even
some heroin
was
manageable.
But these
ducks decided
to move shit
that one
mistake kills.
Fuckbag
dealers are
putting it it
club drugs and
on vicodins.
Kids don't
have a chance
to make a
mistake.
Bomb the shit out of them. Sink their boats, cut their
life jackets,
chum the
waters, I
don't care as
long as they
die. They
don't want to
give our kids
a second
chance, their
adults deserve
as terrible a
death as
possible.
Idgaf about
human rights,
they don't,
and I have no
interest in
the high road.
Turns out drug dealers sometimes get shot, who knew?
Maybe they
were
delivering
critical
supplies to
orphanages,
because
speedboats
with three
engines mean
urgent care is
being
delivered
expeditiously?
Generally deployed from
a ramp on the
back of a
larger cutter
along with
helicopters.
These things
vaguely remind
me of the WWII
PT boats.
I would not want to try
and outrun the
Coast Guard.
From: AF
<[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Adam
Moffett Sent: Wednesday,
October 22,
2025 4:24 PM To: 'AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users Group'
<[email protected]> Subject: Re:
[AFMUG] now
we're blowing
up boats in
the Pacific
Yes, and that's the primary argument against this
practice. If
we have solid
intel that
they're
carrying
drugs, and we
know where
they are, then
as soon as
they enter our
territorial
waters we can
board the boat
and arrest
them. The
Coast Guard
doesn't need a
warrant or
even a
specific
reason to
board a boat.
Some of those
boats are
faster than
Cutters, but I
don't have
solid info on
how often they
actually
escape when
they're
already being
tracked. It's
hard to
imagine they
really get
away often
because the
Coast Guard
also has
helicopters,
and they're
allowed to
continue a
pursuit into
international
waters (and
onto land) as
long as the
pursuit
started in US
waters.
Regardless of how often they really get away, it's not
normal to blow
up someone's
boat as a law
enforcement
action. We
also don't
execute drug
traffickers,
and even when
the state
executes
someone
there's a
trial first.
but.....
post-911 we treat foreign terrorist organizations as
enemy
combatants
the executive branch gets to decide who counts as an
FTO. The sec
of state, sec
of treasury,
and attorney
general all
have to agree,
but they also
all have the
same boss.
Nobody can really stop the executive branch from
declaring an
FTO.
Congress could pass a bill to override someone's
listing as an
FTO, but to
date they've
never done
it.
The courts could overturn an FTO listing, but for a
lot of reasons
it's almost
impossible.
So effectively the President and/or their cabinet has
a completely
legal pathway
to authorize
military force
against just
about anyone,
and there's
very little
anyone can do
about it.
It's not that
I have
sympathy for
drug
smugglers,
it's that all
we can do is
take someone's
word for it
that it was a
drug
smuggler. If
anyone is
totally
comfortable
with that then
I'm curious
what your
rationale is.
From: AF <[email protected]>
on behalf of
Ken Hohhof
<[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday,
October 22,
2025 3:00 PM To: 'AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users Group'
<[email protected]> Subject: [AFMUG]
now we're
blowing up
boats in the
Pacific
I
thought the
Coast Guard
was able to
intercept
boats and
board them,
arrest people
and confiscate
cargo. I seem
to remember
they
specifically
acquired high
speed boats
that were a
match for
anything a
drug runner
might have.
