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On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 9:48 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:

> AIs don't smoke.
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> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
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> On 10/26/2025 5:34 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
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> How much meth was smoked before this post?
>
> You ever see the land lease and neigbor contacts on these?
>
> Nuclear, a handful of acres
>
> Same solar 4 to 6000 acres
>
> Same wind 100s of square miles
>
> 24x7 vs good times
>
> Once we bust the NRC and get gen3 reactors online, we will start giving
> salmon their habitat back
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>
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2025, 12:29 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Petro-dollars are quickly becoming worthless. We've reached the point
>> where renewables (mainly solar) are the fastest, cheapest way to get power
>> to the grid. That will be the main driver going forward. Just in the first
>> half of this year China has put up over 200 GW of solar power. That is
>> roughly equivalent to 200 nuclear reactors. They did that in six months,
>> and it would have taken decades if it was nuclear.
>>
>> A barrel of oil is now around $60, and we are going into a glut, which
>> will drive the price of oil downward. If the price gets much below $50,
>> then all of a sudden all the shale-oil becomes a loser, and will get shut
>> down.
>>
>> It will be interesting how this plays out, but I'm not betting on oil.
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
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>> On 10/25/2025 5:30 PM, Jan-GAMs wrote:
>>
>> It doesn't work that way.  The petrol-dollar assholes will just get the
>> government to make it illegal and force us to use gas.
>> On 10/24/25 19:46, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> George and Gracie did a skit
>> "If we had some eggs, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some ham"
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2025, 12:05 PM Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> IF we actually got functioning Fusion, the greatest benefit would be
>>> being able to just forget about all these places...  Take away the
>>> petrodollar and they would blow away in the desert winds...
>>>
>>> On 10/24/25 9:28 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> Yemen has a 10 year old civil war, partly a proxy war between Iran and
>>> the Saudis.  Yemen was formed by the merger of North Yemen and South Yemen,
>>> the latter was a former British colony.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Houthis are technically a “movement” but they control the capital
>>> and much of the territory and have their own government structure.  The
>>> internationally recognized and Saudi supported government moved to Adan in
>>> the south after the Houthi revolution or coup.  It looks to me like the
>>> split might be roughly the former North Yemen under control of the Houthis
>>> and the former South Yemen under control of the internationally recognized
>>> government.  I seem to remember that the Houthis were threatening to take
>>> control of the whole country when the Saudis intervened.  But the Saudis
>>> were mainly just bombing stuff.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Houthis are Iranian puppets so you could compare them to Hezbollah,
>>> but maybe more like revolutionaries, they control a good chunk of Yemen.
>>> Not nice people.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But Yemen is a mess.  I think I read the British left because of
>>> widespread terrorism and that was decades ago.  If a giant sinkhole
>>> swallowed the whole place, we would probably say good riddance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> <[email protected]> *On
>>> Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2025 10:08 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Are the Houthis an actual country, or just another Al-Qaeda kind of
>>> group?
>>>
>>> bp
>>>
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 10/24/2025 7:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> So are the Houthis justified sinking vessels in the Red Sea from
>>> companies and countries that support Israel’s war in Gaza?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> <[email protected]> *On
>>> Behalf Of *Carl Peterson
>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2025 9:40 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Daily had a really good bit on this yesterday.  Not
>>> particularly about blowing up boats but about the competing interests in
>>> the Trump administration re Venezuela.  It's a great 30 min listen.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Background:  Maduro lost the last election in a landslide (30%/70%) but
>>> refused to cede power.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> TLDL:
>>>
>>> Trump wanted to cut a deal and was working on it but Rubio won out and
>>> is focused on regime change.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/23/podcasts/the-daily/us-venezuela-maduro-boat-attacks.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 9:33 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Heh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 9:13 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Might be safer to have a Maple Leaf flag.  You could always run the
>>> stars and bars, at least they would presume you would be armed and would
>>> fight.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mark
>>> Radabaugh
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2025 7:41 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So that American flag on the back is going to protect me from the
>>> various other countries that decide to even up the score?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 23, 2025, at 9:10 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stop smuggling and you will be just fine….
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2025 6:57 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Someday I would really like to be able to sail around the Caribbean and
>>> South America without having to worry about being randomly blown out of the
>>> water for no reason at all.   “Well, the US said it was OK to kill people
>>> in international waters”.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 23, 2025, at 1:31 AM, Jason McKemie <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It seems very telling that when they blew up a boat and people survived,
>>> they sent them back to their home country vs prosecuting them. You can't
>>> introduce that testimony into the public record.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 11:44 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Replying to myself, which is perhaps a sign I should be in therapy, but
>>> I just realized one reason why the Coast Guard is underappreciated or at
>>> least unknown compared to Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines.  They are part
>>> of DHS not DOD.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But now that DOD is calling itself the Department of War, maybe DHS is
>>> just fine.  Although one is Hegseth and the other is Noem, so flip a coin.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Coast Guard is also much smaller, has a smaller budget, and a much
>>> smaller PR budget.  No money to toot their own horn.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2025 10:50 PM
>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, but if it’s on the ocean, I’d prefer to see a Hawaii Five 0 style
>>> chase.  With McGarrett in a speedboat, and at the end he says “book ‘em,
>>> Danno”.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Besides, I think the Coasties are an underappreciated branch of the US
>>> military.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2025 8:31 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I prefer to see cartels bombed. When they started moving the fent, they
>>> chose bombs. A little nose candy here and there, some dope, a little
>>> crystal, even some heroin was manageable. But these ducks decided to move
>>> shit that one mistake kills. Fuckbag dealers are putting it it club drugs
>>> and on vicodins.  Kids don't have a chance to make a mistake.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bomb the shit out of them. Sink their boats, cut their life jackets,
>>> chum the waters, I don't care as long as they die. They don't want to give
>>> our kids a second chance, their adults deserve as terrible a death as
>>> possible. Idgaf about human rights, they don't, and I have no interest in
>>> the high road.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 6:45 PM Dev <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Turns out drug dealers sometimes get shot, who knew? Maybe they were
>>> delivering critical supplies to orphanages, because speedboats with three
>>> engines mean urgent care is being delivered expeditiously?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 22, 2025, at 3:03 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Article on the latest generation of US Coast Guard “Over The Horizon”
>>> boats.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.workboat.com/shipbuilding/test-driving-the-coast-guard-s-new-over-the-horizon-cutter-boat
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Generally deployed from a ramp on the back of a larger cutter along with
>>> helicopters.  These things vaguely remind me of the WWII PT boats.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would not want to try and outrun the Coast Guard.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2025 4:24 PM
>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, and that's the primary argument against this practice.  If we have
>>> solid intel that they're carrying drugs, and we know where they are, then
>>> as soon as they enter our territorial waters we can board the boat and
>>> arrest them.  The Coast Guard doesn't need a warrant or even a specific
>>> reason to board a boat.  Some of those boats are faster than Cutters, but I
>>> don't have solid info on how often they actually escape when they're
>>> already being tracked.  It's hard to imagine they really get away often
>>> because the Coast Guard also has helicopters, and they're allowed to
>>> continue a pursuit into international waters (and onto land) as long as the
>>> pursuit started in US waters.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regardless of how often they really get away, it's not normal to blow up
>>> someone's boat as a law enforcement action.  We also don't execute drug
>>> traffickers, and even when the state executes someone there's a trial
>>> first.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> but.....
>>>
>>>    1. post-911 we treat foreign terrorist organizations as enemy
>>>    combatants
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. the executive branch gets to decide who counts as an FTO.  The
>>>    sec of state, sec of treasury, and attorney general all have to agree, 
>>> but
>>>    they also all have the same boss.
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. Nobody can really stop the executive branch from declaring an
>>>    FTO.
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. Congress could pass a bill to override someone's listing as an
>>>       FTO, but to date they've never done it.
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. The courts could overturn an FTO listing, but for a lot of
>>>       reasons it's almost impossible.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So effectively the President and/or their cabinet has a completely legal
>>> pathway to authorize military force against just about anyone, and there's
>>> very little anyone can do about it.  It's not that I have sympathy for drug
>>> smugglers, it's that all we can do is take someone's word for it that it
>>> was a drug smuggler.  If anyone is totally comfortable with that then I'm
>>> curious what your rationale is.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Ken Hohhof <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2025 3:00 PM
>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *https://x.com/SecWar/status/1981049943306752361
>>> <https://x.com/SecWar/status/1981049943306752361>*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I thought the Coast Guard was able to intercept boats and board them,
>>> arrest people and confiscate cargo.  I seem to remember they specifically
>>> acquired high speed boats that were a match for anything a drug runner
>>> might have.
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