We have tried both free install, $25 install and $75 install.   There is a 
significant correlation between the number of short term (<90 day) non-pay 
disconnects and the free or $25 install.    Keeping the install high enough 
that the customer has at least some skin in the game makes a measurable 
difference.

Mark



> On Oct 6, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Ty Featherling <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I wasn't speaking globally. In our area the only company that is offering 
> free installs is the one that can't seem to keep customers.
> 
> -Ty
> 
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Brett A Mansfield 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Companies that are hurting for customers are not the only ones that do free 
> installation. I am not hurting for customers at all (I'd actually like to 
> offload a few) and I do free installation. Anyone that has a quality product 
> at the right price for customer and the ISP can afford to do a free 
> installation because that customer will be very loyal and stay with you for a 
> long time. 
> 
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
> 
> On Oct 6, 2015, at 9:47 AM, Ty Featherling <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> I  basically told him just that. I told him the only providers giving away 
>> installations are those that are hurting for customers. I gave him all to 
>> positives about our company and service and told him I hope he finds what he 
>> is looking for from another provider.
>> 
>> -Ty
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> You can’t always get what you want.
>> But if you try sometimes you just might find
>> You get what you need.
>>  
>> I would take the position that your service is the best available in your 
>> area, and it costs what it costs, no promos or freebies.  If it’s the best, 
>> people pay your price on your terms to get it.
>>  
>> You know all those 50 year old guys you see driving new Corvettes?  Most of 
>> them have wanted one since they were 20 and kept asking the dealer when they 
>> were having a sale.  So they drove Malibus for 30 years, until they paid the 
>> asking price for the Corvette.
>>  
>> Do these guys walk up to supermodels and say “Hey, babe, if you’re ever 
>> giving it away, call me”?  Does that ever work?  And if it did work, would 
>> that change the desirability factor?
>>  
>> I’ve had people like this ask once a year if we were having a promo or free 
>> installs yet and finally after 2-3 years order service.  The fact that you 
>> don’t give it away enhances your brand image as the best.
>>  
>> Or they just continue on their quest for fast, good and cheap with a 
>> guarantee but no strings and no upfront cost.  And a pony.
>>  
>>  
>> From: Ty Featherling <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 8:43 AM
>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] reasonable request
>>  
>> Check this out, via our website contact us form:
>>  
>> "Message:
>> I would like to use your service but I'm tired of endless promises from 
>> vendors regarding reliability and available. Up to xmps is a hollow promise.
>> 
>> I would like to use your service but I'm not willing to pay an installation 
>> charge or sign a "contract", and want 24x7 availability and reliability.
>> 
>> What can you "garrantee" that will satisfy my requirements?
>> 
>> Thanks"
>> 
>> I replied with my best explanation of how internet service works in the real 
>> world. I let him know we could possible get him a dedicated connection and 
>> included an estimated cost so that he could see the difference. His reponse 
>> was to ask what our plans are to support UHD (Ultra-High-Definition) 
>> streaming video. He thinks it is ridiculous that he can only get HD streams 
>> to work.
>> 
>> I think I got through to him but damn, what the hell makes a person think 
>> they can demand more while saying they shouldn't have to pay installation or 
>> have a contract. He finally left me with "let me know if you ever have a 
>> promotion for free install and no contract."
>> 
>>  
>> 
> 

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