We used to have a plan that with a higher monthly fee and no up front
costs... there's no question that it attracted very undesirable customers
for the most part. Making them pay a bit up front gets rid of a lot of
deadbeats.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> wrote:

> We have tried both free install, $25 install and $75 install.   There is a
> significant correlation between the number of short term (<90 day) non-pay
> disconnects and the free or $25 install.    Keeping the install high enough
> that the customer has at least some skin in the game makes a measurable
> difference.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Oct 6, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Ty Featherling <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I wasn't speaking globally. In our area the only company that is offering
> free installs is the one that can't seem to keep customers.
>
> -Ty
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Brett A Mansfield <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Companies that are hurting for customers are not the only ones that do
>> free installation. I am not hurting for customers at all (I'd actually like
>> to offload a few) and I do free installation. Anyone that has a quality
>> product at the right price for customer and the ISP can afford to do a free
>> installation because that customer will be very loyal and stay with you for
>> a long time.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2015, at 9:47 AM, Ty Featherling <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I  basically told him just that. I told him the only providers giving
>> away installations are those that are hurting for customers. I gave him all
>> to positives about our company and service and told him I hope he finds
>> what he is looking for from another provider.
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> You can’t always get what you want.
>>> But if you try sometimes you just might find
>>> You get what you need.
>>>
>>> I would take the position that your service is the best available in
>>> your area, and it costs what it costs, no promos or freebies.  If it’s the
>>> best, people pay your price on your terms to get it.
>>>
>>> You know all those 50 year old guys you see driving new Corvettes?  Most
>>> of them have wanted one since they were 20 and kept asking the dealer when
>>> they were having a sale.  So they drove Malibus for 30 years, until they
>>> paid the asking price for the Corvette.
>>>
>>> Do these guys walk up to supermodels and say “Hey, babe, if you’re ever
>>> giving it away, call me”?  Does that ever work?  And if it did work, would
>>> that change the desirability factor?
>>>
>>> I’ve had people like this ask once a year if we were having a promo or
>>> free installs yet and finally after 2-3 years order service.  The fact that
>>> you don’t give it away enhances your brand image as the best.
>>>
>>> Or they just continue on their quest for fast, good and cheap with a
>>> guarantee but no strings and no upfront cost.  And a pony.
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Ty Featherling <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 06, 2015 8:43 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] reasonable request
>>>
>>> Check this out, via our website contact us form:
>>>
>>> "Message:
>>>
>>> I would like to use your service but I'm tired of endless promises from
>>> vendors regarding reliability and available. Up to xmps is a hollow
>>> promise.
>>>
>>> I would like to use your service but I'm not willing to pay an
>>> installation charge or sign a "contract", and want 24x7 availability and
>>> reliability.
>>>
>>> What can you "garrantee" that will satisfy my requirements?
>>>
>>> Thanks"
>>>
>>> I replied with my best explanation of how internet service works in the
>>> real world. I let him know we could possible get him a dedicated connection
>>> and included an estimated cost so that he could see the difference. His
>>> reponse was to ask what our plans are to support UHD
>>> (Ultra-High-Definition) streaming video. He thinks it is ridiculous that he
>>> can only get HD streams to work.
>>>
>>> I think I got through to him but damn, what the hell makes a person
>>> think they can demand more while saying they shouldn't have to pay
>>> installation or have a contract. He finally left me with "let me know if
>>> you ever have a promotion for free install and no contract."
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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