Truth.

I was talking about that yesterday.

If the first question is "how much is it going to cost?" then the price is 
probably higher than they're willing to pay.

$150 install here, breaks even on about half, loses on the rest. Small 
business, so the install fee keeps our parts fund from eating us. It also keeps 
out the folks that want Internet just to watch the game, then disconnect. Don't 
have time for that nonsense.


 Just so the customers like this I could send christmas cards to digitally, 
that they would recieve in January when it finally downloads between outages 
and sub 56k connectivity

Btw, That One Guy, well said.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 11:15 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reasonable request


  $50 install helps offset the cost, increase revenue, and slows down on 
installs.  If you're flooded for work it's a solution.


  From my point of view, it keeps all of the bottom feeders out; I let the 
other guys deal with the "no install fee" and deal with the problematic 
customers.




  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Brett A Mansfield 
<[email protected]> wrote:

    Companies that are hurting for customers are not the only ones that do free 
installation. I am not hurting for customers at all (I'd actually like to 
offload a few) and I do free installation. Anyone that has a quality product at 
the right price for customer and the ISP can afford to do a free installation 
because that customer will be very loyal and stay with you for a long time. 

    Thank you,
    Brett A Mansfield

    On Oct 6, 2015, at 9:47 AM, Ty Featherling <[email protected]> wrote:


      I  basically told him just that. I told him the only providers giving 
away installations are those that are hurting for customers. I gave him all to 
positives about our company and service and told him I hope he finds what he is 
looking for from another provider.


      -Ty


      On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

        You can’t always get what you want.
        But if you try sometimes you just might find
        You get what you need.

        I would take the position that your service is the best available in 
your area, and it costs what it costs, no promos or freebies.  If it’s the 
best, people pay your price on your terms to get it.

        You know all those 50 year old guys you see driving new Corvettes?  
Most of them have wanted one since they were 20 and kept asking the dealer when 
they were having a sale.  So they drove Malibus for 30 years, until they paid 
the asking price for the Corvette.

        Do these guys walk up to supermodels and say “Hey, babe, if you’re ever 
giving it away, call me”?  Does that ever work?  And if it did work, would that 
change the desirability factor?

        I’ve had people like this ask once a year if we were having a promo or 
free installs yet and finally after 2-3 years order service.  The fact that you 
don’t give it away enhances your brand image as the best.

        Or they just continue on their quest for fast, good and cheap with a 
guarantee but no strings and no upfront cost.  And a pony.


        From: Ty Featherling 
        Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 8:43 AM
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: [AFMUG] reasonable request

        Check this out, via our website contact us form: 

        "Message:

        I would like to use your service but I'm tired of endless promises from 
vendors regarding reliability and available. Up to xmps is a hollow promise. 

        I would like to use your service but I'm not willing to pay an 
installation charge or sign a "contract", and want 24x7 availability and 
reliability.

        What can you "garrantee" that will satisfy my requirements?

        Thanks"

        I replied with my best explanation of how internet service works in the 
real world. I let him know we could possible get him a dedicated connection and 
included an estimated cost so that he could see the difference. His reponse was 
to ask what our plans are to support UHD (Ultra-High-Definition) streaming 
video. He thinks it is ridiculous that he can only get HD streams to work.

        I think I got through to him but damn, what the hell makes a person 
think they can demand more while saying they shouldn't have to pay installation 
or have a contract. He finally left me with "let me know if you ever have a 
promotion for free install and no contract."






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