And free internet to look up the pharmacy phone number.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Christopher Tyler
<[email protected]> wrote:
> And a free cell phone so they can call the pharmacy.
>
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> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay Weekley" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 9:27:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Captilism (was Martin Shkreli)
>
> They need clothing and transportation to food, water, shelter and
> medicine.  Or free delivery.
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
>> Food, water, shelter, medicine.  The things anyone and everyone need
>> to survive.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Cameron Crum <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     Since when has it been a basic human right? Where does it stop?
>>     Why are others forced to pay for peoples bad habits? Other than
>>     congenital defects, and some accidents, most health problems are
>>     due to peoples choices. If our money is to be confiscated to pay
>>     for everyone's "human right", don't we get a say in how they live?
>>     How many other human rights are being trampled on then?
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Josh Luthman
>>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>     wrote:
>>
>>         Should medicine really be part of a system of supply and
>>         demand?  I'd agree on the whole hotel thing - you don't have
>>         to stay there - but when you have some medical condition (and
>>         while yes AIDS is something you can certainly avoid) I think
>>         as a society and a culture we shouldn't deny a basic human right.
>>
>>
>>         Josh Luthman
>>         Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>         Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>         1100 Wayne St
>>         Suite 1337
>>         Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>         On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Lewis Bergman
>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>             I can't defend his brashness, but the fact remains that
>>             pure capitalism is the best way demonstrated to date to
>>             innovate and health care or pharma is not exempt. Big
>>             rewards encourage big effort yielding big results. These
>>             pharma companies have something like 7 years until the
>>             exclusivity period expires. That can be a pretty short
>>             time to recover investments. This particular case may be a
>>             bit extreme but to say that capitalism is broken in
>>             America is simply ludicrous.
>>
>>             I recently attended my sons graduation from Texas Tech on
>>             a Friday. Thursday night at the hotel was $159 and Friday
>>             was $269. I don't think that is price gouging. I think it
>>             is a reflection of the simple fact that there are fewer
>>             rooms available on that particular night than are demanded
>>             at $159. The equilibrium was found at $259 where supply
>>             and demand come closer to being equal. At that price I
>>             still witnessed people turned away wanting a room due to
>>             their poor planning. I don't think that is price gouging.
>>             Their hotel was full at $269 a night. The next day was
>>             $159 again. Since the hotel was full they probably could
>>             have been even higher.
>>
>>             I really don't understand what people have such a huge
>>             issue with the fundamental theory of supply and demand.
>>             Yes I understand that it is a potentially life saving
>>             drug. There are other cheaper treatments. Maybe they
>>             aren't as good, which is why they are cheaper. When did we
>>             stop rewarding people for the value they provide? I know
>>             this jerk didn't invent it but he obviously was willing to
>>             reward those who did with a price they thought fair. Sales
>>             over the next few years will prove if he made a mistake.
>>
>>             Why not force Chuck to sell a unique mount he made for 5%
>>             over cost? Heck, why not only cover his cost? Why not less
>>             than cost and force him to provide his great product for
>>             the good of the people? There is a reason it is named
>>             Animal Farm. How many have read this book? While not about
>>             capitalism it does speak to the kind of central control
>>             that skulks below the overt argument for "controlling"
>>             this type of behavior.
>>
>>             I know people might die. I'll put on my really jerky hat
>>             and say "so what?". People die every day for less meaning
>>             and in greater numbers. There is practically a mass
>>             suicide movement going on now with texting and driving. I
>>             don't see where people value there lives or others that
>>             much anyway when reading a text or email is more important
>>             than life itself.
>>             I guess I am just a big libertarian at heart. Give me the
>>             loose framework of a "fair market", whatever that is, and
>>             let the system fight it out. The word isn't fair, not ever
>>             going to be fair, stop trying to warp it to be that way.
>>
>>             Have fun with that on a Friday and have a Merry Christmas,
>>             Happy Hanuka, or whatever else gets your boat floating.
>>
>>             On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 8:02 AM Patrick Leary
>>             <[email protected]
>>             <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>                 The irony? Your local poor schlub a-hole can be
>>                 arrested and charged if he doubles the price of gas,
>>                 water, or other life-critical goods after a natural
>>                 disaster – that’s a crime in America. Meanwhile, it’s
>>                 completely legal for a company to raise a
>>                 life-critical drug by over 5000% -- that’s capitalism
>>                 in America.
>>
>>                 Shkreli is only the most written about example. This
>>                 “business trend’ is all the rage and has been widely
>>                 employed in the U.S. for a number of years now.
>>                 
>> http://news.health.com/2015/09/25/6-insane-examples-of-prescription-drug-price-increases/
>>
>>                 Patrick
>>
>>                 *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
>>                 *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2015 8:28 PM
>>                 *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                 *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT - Martin Shkreli
>>
>>                 Apparently this guy AND HIS LAWYER were arrested
>>                 today.  Everybody knows him as the guy who raises drug
>>                 prices 5000%, but I did not know he live streams
>>                 almost daily to his fans.
>>
>>                 Watch the first video, isn't he just like every
>>                 annoying, entitled, slacker kid living in his parents
>>                 basement that we have to deal with bitching about his
>>                 Internet?  Except he is CEO of a drug company.
>>
>>                 I didn't think it was possible to hate him more, but
>>                 watch the video.
>>
>>                 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8gjB1PSXv_oAUSAQ16S0fA
>>
>>
>>
>>
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