True, getting it decided in the courts is the best outcome. I'm still not convinced that this is anything more than a publicity stunt on Apples side. If Apple has the ability to create a way to unlock it, and they haven't said that they can't do it, how is that any different from them already having it? And why is it any better for Apple to have the ability to crack iPhones than the FBI? Now, I certainly don't trust the government, but they've pretty much always had the ability to look at anything and everything we have in this sort of an investigation.
This is basically the equivalent of the FBI finding a safe with a built in safe that has a built in self destruct feature and telling the company that built it to disable the self destruct, so they can try cracking it... they aren't asking them to put a camera in every safe they build so that they can look inside whenever they want, which is what a lot of people seem to be making this out to be. On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Chuck Macenski <[email protected]> wrote: > WIthout taking a public position one way or the other, this need to be > settled in the courts so that we all have some idea of what rights we do or > do not have; we should not be required to guess about what the government > can and can't do; if we can't be trusted to know what the government can > do, then it can be argued that we have no rights. I am reminded of the > national security letters which are arguably unconstitutional, but, any > attempt to present that argument to the judicial branch can result in your > imprisonment. > > my 2 cents > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Brian Webster <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Ok I will bite to keep the thread moving. >> >> >> >> Ponder this thought: >> >> >> >> Executive branch has the ability to direct the NSA to do domestic spying, >> may not be legal but they do it anyway. This includes spying on members of >> congress. >> >> >> >> We know politicians all have skeletons in their closets, makes them ripe >> for extortion and such. Executive branch uses the NSA to gather all these >> bits of juicy data that incriminates ANY and ALL politicians. >> >> >> >> Every time a critical vote in congress comes up, they study where the >> swing votes may be, then all you do in threaten to disclose any of these >> juicy details the NSA has gathered. End result is the vote goes the way you >> need it to. >> >> >> >> As the executive branch you use this power and tactic very carefully and >> sparingly so as not to raise suspicions or to cause legislative revolt. >> >> >> >> The public does not worry about this because they have the protection of >> the Supreme Court and the balance of powers. >> >> >> >> Then you think, but what if the executive branch does this to the judges >> too………………… >> >> >> >> This level of power is something that once discovered would never be >> given up, it’s just too handy and powerful, no matter which party the >> executive may be from. >> >> >> >> Absolute power corrupts absolutely. >> >> >> >> Thank You, >> >> Brian Webster >> >> www.wirelessmapping.com >> >> www.Broadband-Mapping.com >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >> *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2016 9:03 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple >> >> >> >> Yeah, I was being a troll when I started the thread. I knew it would get >> some traction. Tushar was right, I was bored. >> >> >> >> *From:* Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> >> >> *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2016 7:01 PM >> >> *To:* Animal Farm <[email protected]> >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple >> >> >> >> Hire a high school get to open phone. Geezh >> >> On Feb 19, 2016 3:45 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Treason? >> > >
