Too bad we don't give as much attention, publicity, and funding to prevent ways that people actually die.
http://m.livescience.com/3780-odds-dying.html Way more likely to die from heart disease, cancer or a car accident. Terrorist attack didn't even register on their list, it's lumped in with "all other" If we could only improve car safety a little bit we would instantly save more lives then all terrorist attacks on US soil ever! But it's way more exciting for our government to rule by fear :-/ -Sean On Friday, February 19, 2016, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: > The flip side of this coin is the FBI trying this in the court of public > opinion. > > I say it's a publicity stunt by the FBI. > > Fear Fear Fear. > > That's what they're selling these days, and I haven't been buying tehy > b**sh*t since 9/11. > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > On 2/19/2016 6:58 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > True, getting it decided in the courts is the best outcome. > > I'm still not convinced that this is anything more than a publicity stunt > on Apples side. If Apple has the ability to create a way to unlock it, and > they haven't said that they can't do it, how is that any different from > them already having it? And why is it any better for Apple to have the > ability to crack iPhones than the FBI? Now, I certainly don't trust the > government, but they've pretty much always had the ability to look at > anything and everything we have in this sort of an investigation. > > This is basically the equivalent of the FBI finding a safe with a built in > safe that has a built in self destruct feature and telling the company that > built it to disable the self destruct, so they can try cracking it... they > aren't asking them to put a camera in every safe they build so that they > can look inside whenever they want, which is what a lot of people seem to > be making this out to be. > > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Chuck Macenski <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> WIthout taking a public position one way or the other, this need to be >> settled in the courts so that we all have some idea of what rights we do or >> do not have; we should not be required to guess about what the government >> can and can't do; if we can't be trusted to know what the government can >> do, then it can be argued that we have no rights. I am reminded of the >> national security letters which are arguably unconstitutional, but, any >> attempt to present that argument to the judicial branch can result in your >> imprisonment. >> >> my 2 cents >> >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Brian Webster < >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> [email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >> >>> Ok I will bite to keep the thread moving. >>> >>> >>> >>> Ponder this thought: >>> >>> >>> >>> Executive branch has the ability to direct the NSA to do domestic >>> spying, may not be legal but they do it anyway. This includes spying on >>> members of congress. >>> >>> >>> >>> We know politicians all have skeletons in their closets, makes them ripe >>> for extortion and such. Executive branch uses the NSA to gather all these >>> bits of juicy data that incriminates ANY and ALL politicians. >>> >>> >>> >>> Every time a critical vote in congress comes up, they study where the >>> swing votes may be, then all you do in threaten to disclose any of these >>> juicy details the NSA has gathered. End result is the vote goes the way you >>> need it to. >>> >>> >>> >>> As the executive branch you use this power and tactic very carefully and >>> sparingly so as not to raise suspicions or to cause legislative revolt. >>> >>> >>> >>> The public does not worry about this because they have the protection of >>> the Supreme Court and the balance of powers. >>> >>> >>> >>> Then you think, but what if the executive branch does this to the judges >>> too………………… >>> >>> >>> >>> This level of power is something that once discovered would never be >>> given up, it’s just too handy and powerful, no matter which party the >>> executive may be from. >>> >>> >>> >>> Absolute power corrupts absolutely. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank You, >>> >>> Brian Webster >>> >>> <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>www.wirelessmapping.com >>> >>> <http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com>www.Broadband-Mapping.com >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On Behalf Of *Chuck >>> McCown >>> *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2016 9:03 PM >>> *To:* <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>[email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple >>> >>> >>> >>> Yeah, I was being a troll when I started the thread. I knew it would >>> get some traction. Tushar was right, I was bored. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Jaime Solorza >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>> >>> *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2016 7:01 PM >>> >>> *To:* Animal Farm <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple >>> >>> >>> >>> Hire a high school get to open phone. Geezh >>> >>> On Feb 19, 2016 3:45 PM, < >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>[email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>> >>> Treason? >>> >> >> > >
