Absolutely Chuck, I think this is why smart companies have what I think is called “A Canary Statement” on their web sites. While one cannot disclose legally the receipt of existence of a national security letter having been presented to them, they do publish a statement somewhere on their web site that they have never received a national security letter or been required to respond to a similar type request. So if a company or person where to all of the sudden get a letter, a simple deletion of that statement from their web site might be a good indication that they have since received a letter. Only problem is this has not seen massive adoption so that it would become a re3liable system/method.
The whole secret court thing is beyond comprehension and again I make my statement that absolute power corrupts absolutely. One party created the law, the other party had the opportunity to let it expire yet they chose to renew the law…… Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck Macenski Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 9:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple WIthout taking a public position one way or the other, this need to be settled in the courts so that we all have some idea of what rights we do or do not have; we should not be required to guess about what the government can and can't do; if we can't be trusted to know what the government can do, then it can be argued that we have no rights. I am reminded of the national security letters which are arguably unconstitutional, but, any attempt to present that argument to the judicial branch can result in your imprisonment. my 2 cents On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Brian Webster <[email protected]> wrote: Ok I will bite to keep the thread moving. Ponder this thought: Executive branch has the ability to direct the NSA to do domestic spying, may not be legal but they do it anyway. This includes spying on members of congress. We know politicians all have skeletons in their closets, makes them ripe for extortion and such. Executive branch uses the NSA to gather all these bits of juicy data that incriminates ANY and ALL politicians. Every time a critical vote in congress comes up, they study where the swing votes may be, then all you do in threaten to disclose any of these juicy details the NSA has gathered. End result is the vote goes the way you need it to. As the executive branch you use this power and tactic very carefully and sparingly so as not to raise suspicions or to cause legislative revolt. The public does not worry about this because they have the protection of the Supreme Court and the balance of powers. Then you think, but what if the executive branch does this to the judges too………………… This level of power is something that once discovered would never be given up, it’s just too handy and powerful, no matter which party the executive may be from. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 9:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple Yeah, I was being a troll when I started the thread. I knew it would get some traction. Tushar was right, I was bored. From: Jaime Solorza <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 7:01 PM To: Animal Farm <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple Hire a high school get to open phone. Geezh On Feb 19, 2016 3:45 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: Treason?
