The flip side of this coin is the FBI trying this in the court of public
opinion.
I say it's a publicity stunt by the FBI.
Fear Fear Fear.
That's what they're selling these days, and I haven't been buying tehy
b**sh*t since 9/11.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 2/19/2016 6:58 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
True, getting it decided in the courts is the best outcome.
I'm still not convinced that this is anything more than a publicity
stunt on Apples side. If Apple has the ability to create a way to
unlock it, and they haven't said that they can't do it, how is that
any different from them already having it? And why is it any better
for Apple to have the ability to crack iPhones than the FBI? Now, I
certainly don't trust the government, but they've pretty much always
had the ability to look at anything and everything we have in this
sort of an investigation.
This is basically the equivalent of the FBI finding a safe with a
built in safe that has a built in self destruct feature and telling
the company that built it to disable the self destruct, so they can
try cracking it... they aren't asking them to put a camera in every
safe they build so that they can look inside whenever they want, which
is what a lot of people seem to be making this out to be.
On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Chuck Macenski <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
WIthout taking a public position one way or the other, this need
to be settled in the courts so that we all have some idea of what
rights we do or do not have; we should not be required to guess
about what the government can and can't do; if we can't be trusted
to know what the government can do, then it can be argued that we
have no rights. I am reminded of the national security letters
which are arguably unconstitutional, but, any attempt to present
that argument to the judicial branch can result in your imprisonment.
my 2 cents
On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Brian Webster
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Ok I will bite to keep the thread moving.
Ponder this thought:
Executive branch has the ability to direct the NSA to do
domestic spying, may not be legal but they do it anyway. This
includes spying on members of congress.
We know politicians all have skeletons in their closets, makes
them ripe for extortion and such. Executive branch uses the
NSA to gather all these bits of juicy data that incriminates
ANY and ALL politicians.
Every time a critical vote in congress comes up, they study
where the swing votes may be, then all you do in threaten to
disclose any of these juicy details the NSA has gathered. End
result is the vote goes the way you need it to.
As the executive branch you use this power and tactic very
carefully and sparingly so as not to raise suspicions or to
cause legislative revolt.
The public does not worry about this because they have the
protection of the Supreme Court and the balance of powers.
Then you think, but what if the executive branch does this to
the judges too…………………
This level of power is something that once discovered would
never be given up, it’s just too handy and powerful, no matter
which party the executive may be from.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
www.Broadband-Mapping.com <http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com>
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2016 9:03 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple
Yeah, I was being a troll when I started the thread. I knew
it would get some traction. Tushar was right, I was bored.
*From:*Jaime Solorza <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Friday, February 19, 2016 7:01 PM
*To:*Animal Farm <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple
Hire a high school get to open phone. Geezh
On Feb 19, 2016 3:45 PM, <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Treason?
