Might not be long..

http://terrapower.com/

On 4/1/2016 10:29 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
I think we should all have a tiny MSR reactor buried in our back yards.

On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:21 AM Bill Prince <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I believe that people are not arguing that electric vehicles are
    the be-all end-all argument today. I believe what they're arguing
    is that they work for a large number of people in some circumstances.

    If you are a long-distance commuter, or a traveling salesman, then
    nope, not a great idea. But if you're an urban commuter going 100
    to 200 miles round trip per day, it might be an entirely different
    answer.

    And yes. lithium disposal might be a problem. Today. On the other
    hand, there might already be a good way to recycle the lithium
    from old batteries. Tomorrow, or next year, or a decade from now,
    we might be using an entirely different storage medium. Sulfur anyone?


    bp
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    On 4/1/2016 8:15 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
    First, I think electric is great for those it works for. It just
    won't work out here in west Texas. Second, if less pollution is
    the reason I guess the pollution of the battery pack isn't
    considered? I have to think that would be a pretty significant
    deal. I don't know how much but I have to dispose of LiIon
    batteries every day to some special center. No idea why but I
    guess lithium in Jaimie's whater isn't appreciated like it used
    to be. I would think that for places with heavy urban traffic and
    lots of traffic jams they would be ideal. NY, Chicago, DC, etc.

    On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:07 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        30 minutes to recharge seems problematic for long distance
        trips.  Need battery swap.
        
http://www.wsj.com/articles/tesla-owners-frustrated-by-recharge-waits-1435690694
        And which type of vehicle is best in a post-apocalyptic
        world?  I don’t see electric vehicles in Mad Max movies
        (except for the guitar guy who obviously has some form of
        electric power available).  The best solution would seem to
be the Mr. Fusion powered DeLorean from Back to the Future. We will never run out of garbage.
        *From:* Simon Westlake <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Sent:* Friday, April 01, 2016 9:41 AM
        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?
        I would imagine that if we were designing cars from scratch
        today, using a combustion engine definitely wouldn't be the
        choice. I can imagine the outcry if the infrastructure plan
        for new vehicles was to ship explosive fuel all around the
        country, to power vehicles that will emit huge amounts of
        pollution versus having charging stations everywhere.

        On 4/1/2016 9:14 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
        I read recently that in the US electric cars were considered
        the better option in the early days (like 1890-1910).  Then
        we found out Texas was made out of oil and the economic
        argument went the other way.

        On 4/1/2016 9:54 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
        I honestly wouldn't get in line for one today. Tesla has
        never been "on time", but they make decent cars when they
        cost around $100 grand. When they're "giving them away" for
        $35,000, it may be a whole new ballgame.

        But the arguments for an electric car are getting better
        day by day. In 18 months or so, they may tip over to the
        point of working for a majority of buyers. I can wait until
        then to see how it works out.

        bp
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        On 4/1/2016 6:50 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

        It does now...

        but can it blend?

        On Apr 1, 2016 7:29 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            But does it have SFPs?
            *From:* Mike Hammett <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Sent:* Friday, April 01, 2016 7:17 AM
            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is
            getting one?

            Coal? Mine is mostly nuclear. I'd imagine for others
            it may be mostly hydro.



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            *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>
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            *Sent: *Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:36:49 PM
            *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is
            getting one?

            Coal and oil are kind of the same source for energy.

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            On Apr 1, 2016 12:33 AM, "Chuck Hogg"
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                At a pretty cheaper cost too.

                Regards,
                Chuck

                On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:30 AM, Mike Hammett
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    You're just replacing a pump with a plug into
                    a wall or charging station. No difference.
                    Same actions, just different object.



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                    *From: *"Chuck McCown" <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *Sent: *Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:28:36 PM


                    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who
                    else is getting one?

                    But you don’t.  That is the point. I have a
                    charger at home and at work and at my other
                    work. 3-5 seconds. None if  you have a
                    passenger do it for you...
                    *From:* Mike Hammett <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:25 PM
                    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who
                    else is getting one?

                    You still have most of those hassles with
                    electric. You still have them all if you're
                    not at a free charging location.



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                    *From: *"Chuck McCown" <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *Sent: *Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:17:50 PM
                    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who
                    else is getting one?

                    Time it. You will be surprised.  5 minutes.
                    Gotta drive in, park, get out, gas cap off,
                    swipe card, wait for authentication, select
                    fuel, wait for beep, put hose in, pull
                    trigger. Wait a couple of minutes, reverse all
                    of the above, stand in rain, snow gas fumes,
                    noise.
                    From the moment you leave the street to being
                    back on the street 5 minutes.
                    And it costs you money!
                    I charge with solar.
                    *From:* Josh Luthman
                    <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:13 PM
                    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who
                    else is getting one?

                    We drive past gas stations every day.  It's
                    what, 2 minutes?

                    If you travel >200 miles your time table is
                    screwed as you need to charge.  Your route
                    also can't be the scenic one.

                    It costs more than my current car which I have
                    today and I doubt it comes close in terms of
                    comfort.

                    Oh and the auto pilot doesn't try to hit
                    oncoming traffic. That's a nice upside!

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