Not familiar with that metric, 2-3 charges.
Any battery can be charged in 10 hours or less.  

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 9:37 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?

Right, after they do 600+ miles.  Which is 2-3 charges on a vehicle that weighs 
2 ton.


Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 11:34 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

  Semi trucks with one driver are legally required to park and rest giving the 
more than adequate time to recharge.
  And, I still hold out hope for EEStor.  (I actually have Zenn stock...)

  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 8:46 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?

  In that scenario... 

  "Whoa you can go 500 miles and then recharge in 2 minutes to go another 500 
miles?!  Over and over?!"

  Imagine if semi/cargo trucks were dependent on electric/charging.  The 
shipping industry would collapse.


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
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  Troy, OH 45373

  On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Simon Westlake <[email protected]> wrote:

    I would imagine that if we were designing cars from scratch today, using a 
combustion engine definitely wouldn't be the choice. I can imagine the outcry 
if the infrastructure plan for new vehicles was to ship explosive fuel all 
around the country, to power vehicles that will emit huge amounts of pollution 
versus having charging stations everywhere.


    On 4/1/2016 9:14 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

      I read recently that in the US electric cars were considered the better 
option in the early days (like 1890-1910).  Then we found out Texas was made 
out of oil and the economic argument went the other way.


      On 4/1/2016 9:54 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

        I honestly wouldn't get in line for one today. Tesla has never been "on 
time", but they make decent cars when they cost around $100 grand. When they're 
"giving them away" for $35,000, it may be a whole new ballgame.

        But the arguments for an electric car are getting better day by day. In 
18 months or so, they may tip over to the point of working for a majority of 
buyers. I can wait until then to see how it works out.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 4/1/2016 6:50 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

          It does now...

          but can it blend?

          On Apr 1, 2016 7:29 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:

            But does it have SFPs?

            From: Mike Hammett 
            Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 7:17 AM
            To: [email protected] 
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?

            Coal? Mine is mostly nuclear. I'd imagine for others it may be 
mostly hydro.




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            Mike Hammett
            Intelligent Computing Solutions

            Midwest Internet Exchange

            The Brothers WISP






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            From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
            To: [email protected]
            Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:36:49 PM
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?


            Coal and oil are kind of the same source for energy.

            Josh Luthman
            Office: 937-552-2340
            Direct: 937-552-2343
            1100 Wayne St
            Suite 1337
            Troy, OH 45373

            On Apr 1, 2016 12:33 AM, "Chuck Hogg" <[email protected]> wrote:

              At a pretty cheaper cost too.

              Regards,
              Chuck

              On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:30 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                You're just replacing a pump with a plug into a wall or 
charging station. No difference. Same actions, just different object.




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                Intelligent Computing Solutions

                Midwest Internet Exchange

                The Brothers WISP






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                From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
                To: [email protected]
                Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:28:36 PM 

                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?


                But you don’t.  That is the point.  I have a charger at home 
and at work and at my other work.  3-5 seconds.  None if  you have a passenger 
do it for you...

                From: Mike Hammett 
                Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:25 PM
                To: [email protected] 
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?

                You still have most of those hassles with electric. You still 
have them all if you're not at a free charging location.




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                Mike Hammett
                Intelligent Computing Solutions

                Midwest Internet Exchange

                The Brothers WISP






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                From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
                To: [email protected]
                Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:17:50 PM
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?


                Time it.  You will be surprised.  5 minutes.  Gotta drive in, 
park, get out, gas cap off, swipe card, wait for authentication, select fuel, 
wait for beep, put hose in, pull trigger.  Wait a couple  of minutes, reverse 
all of the above, stand in rain, snow gas fumes, noise.  

                From the moment you leave the street to being back on the 
street 5 minutes.  

                And it costs you money!  

                I charge with solar.  

                From: Josh Luthman 
                Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:13 PM
                To: [email protected] 
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?

                We drive past gas stations every day.  It's what, 2 minutes?

                If you travel >200 miles your time table is screwed as you need 
to charge.  Your route also can't be the scenic one.

                It costs more than my current car which I have today and I 
doubt it comes close in terms of comfort.

                Oh and the auto pilot doesn't try to hit oncoming traffic.  
That's a nice upside!

                Josh Luthman
                Office: 937-552-2340
                Direct: 937-552-2343
                1100 Wayne St
                Suite 1337
                Troy, OH 45373

                On Apr 1, 2016 12:03 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

                  Silent neck  snapping acceleration and never stopping to gas 
up...
                  If your daily trips are fairly short, you would only have to 
plug in once a week.  
                  There is nothing but upside here.  

                  From: Josh Luthman 
                  Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:00 PM
                  To: [email protected] 
                  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?

                  Even if it were 5 seconds that would be more time every two 
weeks than what I spend at a gas station.  Then I have to pay for power 
anyway...

                  Not a fan of the front end duck bill.  The rear has too much 
Prius.  Side looks great.  Interior looked unfinished or space aged.

                  115k preorders for something you won't see in two years, 
though?  Woof.

                  Josh Luthman
                  Office: 937-552-2340
                  Direct: 937-552-2343
                  1100 Wayne St
                  Suite 1337
                  Troy, OH 45373

                  On Mar 31, 2016 11:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                    It takes 5 seconds to plug in and you wave at every gas 
station as you pass it.  

                    From: Josh Luthman 
                    Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 9:02 PM
                    To: [email protected] 
                    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting 
one?

                    No interest really.  Plugging in every time I get home?  
Yuck.  I love the updates they do with the Model S and the API power is really 
awesome, but I'm more for NA over boost, let alone electric.

                    I saw the website and thought "Who's going to preorder a 
car that won't be announced for another hour?". IPhone users :P

                    Josh Luthman
                    Office: 937-552-2340
                    Direct: 937-552-2343
                    1100 Wayne St
                    Suite 1337
                    Troy, OH 45373

                    On Mar 31, 2016 10:57 PM, "Simon Westlake" 
mailto:[email protected] wrote:

                      One day!

                      On 3/31/2016 9:54 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

                        Gerard and I just put our pre-orders in..anyone else?

                        Regards,
                        Chuck


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