The standard mount is being improved a bit (same cost) as well as an optional LR upgraded mount for longer distances.
Thanks, -Hal On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 7:49 PM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: > I thought they were releasing a 2nd gen mount? > On Apr 4, 2016 6:35 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > >> Wasn’t there a post from them saying for a few bucks more there is a >> better mount? >> >> > >> *From:* Cassidy B. Larson <c...@infowest.com> >> *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2016 6:18 PM >> > *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >> > FWIW on these IgniteNet 60GHz, the mounts are horrendous. We got a couple >> of pairs and my installers are saying they’re worse than a nano bridge >> mount.. For the stability one would need to keep these locked on during a >> breeze, we were expecting a much heavier duty mount. >> >> > Chuck, another product idea for ya :) >> >> -c >> > On Apr 4, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >> >> >> I thought that was Trump’s plan to eliminate the national debt in 8 years! >> >> Or a new reality TV show: Naked and Unshod. >> >> >> >> *From:* Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net> >> *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2016 5:31 PM >> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >> >> I often tell my wife.... >> >> >> If the women of the world stopped buying shoes and clothes for 3 months, >> there will be a total world wide economic collapse ! >> >> >> >> :) >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> <supp...@snappytelecom.net> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >> *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com> >> *Sent: *Monday, April 4, 2016 3:58:01 PM >> >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >> >> Ha >> >> On Apr 4, 2016 1:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >> I told my wife this morning that I am going to have to find a rehab >>> center for an Amazon addict. >>> >> *From:* Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2016 1:47 PM >>> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com> >>> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>> >> My wife always complains that I don't need more tools I respond... when >>> you stop buying shoes, I will stop buying tools...she gives me the death >>> stare. >>> >> On Apr 4, 2016 1:44 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote: >>> >> Chuck, somehow you remind me of my business partner.... who goes looking >>>> for projects, cause they are a perfect opportunity to collect (buy) more >>>> tools... one can never have enough tools ! >>>> >>>> (He is more into power tools, construction, mechanical etc ...) >>>> >>>> >>> :) >>>> >>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <305%20663%205518%20x%20232> >>>> >>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >>>> <supp...@snappytelecom.net> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>> *From: *"Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> >>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>> *Sent: *Monday, April 4, 2016 3:36:59 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>>> >>>> I just tested a cable tester from Ideal that qualifies GigE circuits. >>>> >>>> >>>> Nice thing is, it will do a data test without cable continuity. >>>> (It also does the actual cable continuity tests too). >>>> >>>> I wonder what it would show on a less than 1Gbps radio. $1325 >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2016 1:32 PM >>>> >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>>> >>>> Sorry to be late to the party. ;-) >>>> >>>> I have a few comments on iperf though. Iperf2 is not very reliable at >>>> high speeds. For high speeds, iperf3 tends to do a little better assuming >>>> you have enough computer to push the required speeds. However iperf3 >>>> cannot yet do bi-di tests. >>>> >>>> For affordable testing, we've found Mikrotik's traffic generator to be >>>> pretty good. It's a little complicated to setup the first time but then it >>>> is better. Beware using btest - it uses a single core and can't keep up >>>> especially if you try random data. >>>> >>>> Then there's RFC testers like Exfo, Smartbits, etc. We use Smartbits. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> -Hal >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:15 AM Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Every new gear is suspicious in regards of holding up to the promises >>>>> made. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We’ve heard so many promises in the past and very often the truth does >>>>> not meet marketing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So there is nothing aggressive if someone wants to see iperf testing. >>>>> Seeing is believing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Ken Hohhof >>>>> *Gesendet:* Montag, 4. April 2016 15:08 >>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> By comparison to the presidential contest, the tone was very mild! >>>>> Did you see Jimmy Kimmel’s American Girl & Boy Dolls Presidential >>>>> Collection? >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FYHPr7TL2AY >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net> >>>>> >>>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2016 8:03 AM >>>>> >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am not being defensive about Ignite, as I stated in my email.... I >>>>> am having a reaction to the tone of your question. If you were to look at >>>>> my posts you will also see that I have expressed similar feelings to >>>>> others >>>>> in regards to how they ask the question... irrespective of who they are >>>>> asking about. I also apologized for this being a personality defect in >>>>> myself. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Cut & Paste was not for your benefit, but for others who lurk in >>>>> the forums. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There is nothing wrong with running an iperf test.. but you >>>>> specifically asked for the test to be run in a very particular way, from >>>>> very particular pieces of equipment..... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> My apologies if I am over reacting.... WISP's have many many great >>>>> attributes, however there is one attribute which would be nice to change >>>>> for the better.... Our Attitudes towards the mfg. and the default >>>>> presumption of a 'conspiracy' or 'they are trying to pull a fast one on >>>>> us'..... along with it also having enough fortitude to asking the MFG and >>>>> or their representatives the technical questions before coming to the open >>>>> forums and taking an opinion poll.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ok, I will now get off my soap box. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <305%20663%205518%20x%20232> >>>>> >>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> >>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>>> *Sent: *Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:52:00 PM >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>>>> >>>>> For somebody who doesn't own a piece of the company and doesn't work >>>>> there, you're extremely defensive. I don't need a copied and pasted >>>>> explanation of what FDD and TDD are. >>>>> >>>>> How in any way whatsoever is it inappropriate to run iperf tests on a >>>>> newly released PTP bridge radio? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < >>>>> fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> like I said before.. ask the question directly... no need for the >>>>> cloak and dagger ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----------- >>>>> Frequency-division duplexing (FDD) is a method for establishing a >>>>> full-duplex communications link that uses two different radio frequencies >>>>> for transmitter and receiver operation. The transmit direction and receive >>>>> direction frequencies are separated by a defined frequency offset. In the >>>>> microwave realm, the primary advantages of this approach are: >>>>> ----------------- >>>>> NO THEY ARE NOT FDD. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Time-division duplexing (TDD) is a method for emulating full-duplex >>>>> communication over a half-duplex communication link. The transmitter and >>>>> receiver both use the same frequency but transmit and receive traffic is >>>>> switched in time. The primary advantages of this approach as it applies to >>>>> microwave communication are: >>>>> ------------------ >>>>> YES They are TDD. ( The notation of 1gig aggregate should have give >>>>> this away ! ) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Like all new products, they are making improvements with firmware >>>>> updates. The published specs are 'conservative'. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> These are the first radios of their kind in the market place... I >>>>> think you will need to modify your thinking about them, cause you keep >>>>> comparing them to the other existing (much more expensive) radios in the >>>>> market place. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Anything else you would like to know ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Feel free to ask...... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> BTW, FWIW, I don't work for Ignite, nor do I own a piece of the >>>>> company (would love to buy stock in them if I could). I am on the beta >>>>> testers of the product... There is something about the tone of your >>>>> question that is rubbing me the wrong way, my apologies if I am over >>>>> reacting...... I normally expect the proper professional decorum to be.. >>>>> ask the question directly, and only if that is not answered or if the >>>>> answer is not straight forward then it is ok to imply some intentional >>>>> obfuscation..... not the other way around ! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <305%20663%205518%20x%20232> >>>>> >>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> >>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>>> *Sent: *Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:14:08 PM >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>>>> >>>>> I'm not trying to prove or disprove anything, just to compare them >>>>> with existing line rate 60 GHz FDD solutions. >>>>> >>>>> The datasheet says 1Gbps aggregate throughput but nowhere does it say >>>>> specifically if they're FDD or TDD in the 60 GHz band: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.ignitenet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/IgniteNet_MetroLinq.pdf >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < >>>>> fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What exactly are you looking to prove of dis-prove with such a test ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Iperf is iperf, what difference does it make how it is run.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Are you asking the question 'How much data I can push thru with these >>>>> radios ?'..... the question has been answered multiple times... >>>>> the radios are (as per specs, 1gig half duplex, thus giving you 500meg >>>>> x 500meg performance.) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Radio side is using 2ghz wide channel, and the latest firmware is >>>>> showing 700meg x 700meg performance.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What is the problem with this ? if you think Ignite is lying about the >>>>> specs, buy a pair, do the testing you like, with pink, blue, or purple >>>>> laptop of your choice and if you don't like them, send them back !... or >>>>> someone will be happy to buy them from you ... they are in short supply as >>>>> it is .... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <305%20663%205518%20x%20232> >>>>> >>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> >>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>>> *Sent: *Sunday, April 3, 2016 10:03:39 PM >>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>>>> >>>>> Anyone done a simultaneous bidirectional iperf test yet? Preferably >>>>> with something like a Thinkpad (Intel 1000BaseT NIC) running Linux plugged >>>>> into each end. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
