I often tell my wife.... If the women of the world stopped buying shoes and clothes for 3 months, there will be a total world wide economic collapse !
:) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] > From: "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> > To: "Animal Farm" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 3:58:01 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? > Ha > On Apr 4, 2016 1:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" < [email protected] > wrote: >> I told my wife this morning that I am going to have to find a rehab center >> for >> an Amazon addict. >> From: Jaime Solorza >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 1:47 PM >> To: Animal Farm >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >> My wife always complains that I don't need more tools I respond... when you >> stop >> buying shoes, I will stop buying tools...she gives me the death stare. >> On Apr 4, 2016 1:44 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" < [email protected] > wrote: >>> Chuck, somehow you remind me of my business partner.... who goes looking for >>> projects, cause they are a perfect opportunity to collect (buy) more >>> tools... >>> one can never have enough tools ! >>> (He is more into power tools, construction, mechanical etc ...) >>> :) >>> Faisal Imtiaz >>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>> Miami, FL 33155 >>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>> From: "Chuck McCown" < [email protected] > >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 3:36:59 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>>> I just tested a cable tester from Ideal that qualifies GigE circuits. >>>> Nice thing is, it will do a data test without cable continuity. >>>> (It also does the actual cable continuity tests too). >>>> I wonder what it would show on a less than 1Gbps radio. $1325 >>>> From: Harold Bledsoe >>>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 1:32 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>>> Sorry to be late to the party. ;-) >>>> I have a few comments on iperf though. Iperf2 is not very reliable at high >>>> speeds. For high speeds, iperf3 tends to do a little better assuming you >>>> have >>>> enough computer to push the required speeds. However iperf3 cannot yet do >>>> bi-di >>>> tests. >>>> For affordable testing, we've found Mikrotik's traffic generator to be >>>> pretty >>>> good. It's a little complicated to setup the first time but then it is >>>> better. >>>> Beware using btest - it uses a single core and can't keep up especially if >>>> you >>>> try random data. >>>> Then there's RFC testers like Exfo, Smartbits, etc. We use Smartbits. >>>> Thanks, >>>> -Hal >>>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:15 AM Stefan Englhardt < [email protected] > wrote: >>>>> Every new gear is suspicious in regards of holding up to the promises >>>>> made. >>>>> We’ve heard so many promises in the past and very often the truth does >>>>> not meet >>>>> marketing. >>>>> So there is nothing aggressive if someone wants to see iperf testing. >>>>> Seeing is >>>>> believing. >>>>> Von: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] Im Auftrag von Ken Hohhof >>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 4. April 2016 15:08 >>>>> An: [email protected] >>>>> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>>>> By comparison to the presidential contest, the tone was very mild! Did >>>>> you see >>>>> Jimmy Kimmel’s American Girl & Boy Dolls Presidential Collection? >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FYHPr7TL2AY >>>>> From: Faisal Imtiaz >>>>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 8:03 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>>>> I am not being defensive about Ignite, as I stated in my email.... I am >>>>> having a >>>>> reaction to the tone of your question. If you were to look at my posts >>>>> you will >>>>> also see that I have expressed similar feelings to others in regards to >>>>> how >>>>> they ask the question... irrespective of who they are asking about. I also >>>>> apologized for this being a personality defect in myself. >>>>> The Cut & Paste was not for your benefit, but for others who lurk in the >>>>> forums. >>>>> There is nothing wrong with running an iperf test.. but you specifically >>>>> asked >>>>> for the test to be run in a very particular way, from very particular >>>>> pieces of >>>>> equipment..... >>>>> My apologies if I am over reacting.... WISP's have many many great >>>>> attributes, >>>>> however there is one attribute which would be nice to change for the >>>>> better.... >>>>> Our Attitudes towards the mfg. and the default presumption of a >>>>> 'conspiracy' or >>>>> 'they are trying to pull a fast one on us'..... along with it also having >>>>> enough fortitude to asking the MFG and or their representatives the >>>>> technical >>>>> questions before coming to the open forums and taking an opinion poll.... >>>>> ok, I will now get off my soap box. >>>>> Regards >>>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>>>> From: "Eric Kuhnke" < [email protected] > >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:52:00 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>>>>> For somebody who doesn't own a piece of the company and doesn't work >>>>>> there, >>>>>> you're extremely defensive. I don't need a copied and pasted explanation >>>>>> of >>>>>> what FDD and TDD are. >>>>>> How in any way whatsoever is it inappropriate to run iperf tests on a >>>>>> newly >>>>>> released PTP bridge radio? >>>>>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < [email protected] >>>>>> > >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> like I said before.. ask the question directly... no need for the cloak >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> dagger ... >>>>>>> ----------- >>>>>>> Frequency-division duplexing (FDD) is a method for establishing a >>>>>>> full-duplex >>>>>>> communications link that uses two different radio frequencies for >>>>>>> transmitter >>>>>>> and receiver operation. The transmit direction and receive direction >>>>>>> frequencies are separated by a defined frequency offset. In the >>>>>>> microwave >>>>>>> realm, the primary advantages of this approach are: >>>>>>> ----------------- >>>>>>> NO THEY ARE NOT FDD. >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Time-division duplexing (TDD) is a method for emulating full-duplex >>>>>>> communication over a half-duplex communication link. The transmitter and >>>>>>> receiver both use the same frequency but transmit and receive traffic is >>>>>>> switched in time. The primary advantages of this approach as it applies >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> microwave communication are: >>>>>>> ------------------ >>>>>>> YES They are TDD. ( The notation of 1gig aggregate should have give >>>>>>> this away ! >>>>>>> ) >>>>>>> Like all new products, they are making improvements with firmware >>>>>>> updates. The >>>>>>> published specs are 'conservative'. >>>>>>> These are the first radios of their kind in the market place... I think >>>>>>> you will >>>>>>> need to modify your thinking about them, cause you keep comparing them >>>>>>> to the >>>>>>> other existing (much more expensive) radios in the market place. >>>>>>> Anything else you would like to know ? >>>>>>> Feel free to ask...... >>>>>>> BTW, FWIW, I don't work for Ignite, nor do I own a piece of the company >>>>>>> (would >>>>>>> love to buy stock in them if I could). I am on the beta testers of the >>>>>>> product... There is something about the tone of your question that is >>>>>>> rubbing >>>>>>> me the wrong way, my apologies if I am over reacting...... I normally >>>>>>> expect >>>>>>> the proper professional decorum to be.. ask the question directly, and >>>>>>> only if >>>>>>> that is not answered or if the answer is not straight forward then it >>>>>>> is ok to >>>>>>> imply some intentional obfuscation..... not the other way around ! >>>>>>> :) >>>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>>>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>>>>>> From: "Eric Kuhnke" < [email protected] > >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:14:08 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>>>>>>> I'm not trying to prove or disprove anything, just to compare them >>>>>>>> with existing >>>>>>>> line rate 60 GHz FDD solutions. >>>>>>>> The datasheet says 1Gbps aggregate throughput but nowhere does it say >>>>>>>> specifically if they're FDD or TDD in the 60 GHz band: >>>>>>>> http://www.ignitenet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/IgniteNet_MetroLinq.pdf >>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < >>>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> What exactly are you looking to prove of dis-prove with such a test ? >>>>>>>>> Iperf is iperf, what difference does it make how it is run.... >>>>>>>>> Are you asking the question 'How much data I can push thru with these >>>>>>>>> radios >>>>>>>>> ?'..... the question has been answered multiple times... >>>>>>>>> the radios are (as per specs, 1gig half duplex, thus giving you >>>>>>>>> 500meg x 500meg >>>>>>>>> performance.) >>>>>>>>> The Radio side is using 2ghz wide channel, and the latest firmware is >>>>>>>>> showing >>>>>>>>> 700meg x 700meg performance.... >>>>>>>>> What is the problem with this ? if you think Ignite is lying about >>>>>>>>> the specs, >>>>>>>>> buy a pair, do the testing you like, with pink, blue, or purple >>>>>>>>> laptop of your >>>>>>>>> choice and if you don't like them, send them back !... or someone >>>>>>>>> will be happy >>>>>>>>> to buy them from you ... they are in short supply as it is .... >>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>>>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>>>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>>>>>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>>>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>>>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> From: "Eric Kuhnke" < [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 10:03:39 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>>>>>>>>> Anyone done a simultaneous bidirectional iperf test yet? Preferably >>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>> something like a Thinkpad (Intel 1000BaseT NIC) running Linux >>>>>>>>>> plugged into each >>>>>>>>>> end.
