I thought that was Trump’s plan to eliminate the national debt in 8 years!
Or a new reality TV show: Naked and Unshod.
From: Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
I often tell my wife....
If the women of the world stopped buying shoes and clothes for 3 months, there
will be a total world wide economic collapse !
:)
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
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From: "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 3:58:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
Ha
On Apr 4, 2016 1:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
I told my wife this morning that I am going to have to find a rehab center
for an Amazon addict.
From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 1:47 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
My wife always complains that I don't need more tools I respond... when
you stop buying shoes, I will stop buying tools...she gives me the death stare.
On Apr 4, 2016 1:44 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:
Chuck, somehow you remind me of my business partner.... who goes looking
for projects, cause they are a perfect opportunity to collect (buy) more
tools... one can never have enough tools !
(He is more into power tools, construction, mechanical etc ...)
:)
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
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From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 3:36:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
I just tested a cable tester from Ideal that qualifies GigE circuits.
Nice thing is, it will do a data test without cable continuity.
(It also does the actual cable continuity tests too).
I wonder what it would show on a less than 1Gbps radio. $1325
From: Harold Bledsoe
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 1:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
Sorry to be late to the party. ;-)
I have a few comments on iperf though. Iperf2 is not very reliable at
high speeds. For high speeds, iperf3 tends to do a little better assuming you
have enough computer to push the required speeds. However iperf3 cannot yet do
bi-di tests.
For affordable testing, we've found Mikrotik's traffic generator to be
pretty good. It's a little complicated to setup the first time but then it is
better. Beware using btest - it uses a single core and can't keep up
especially if you try random data.
Then there's RFC testers like Exfo, Smartbits, etc. We use Smartbits.
Thanks,
-Hal
On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:15 AM Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
Every new gear is suspicious in regards of holding up to the promises
made.
We’ve heard so many promises in the past and very often the truth
does not meet marketing.
So there is nothing aggressive if someone wants to see iperf testing.
Seeing is believing.
Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Ken Hohhof
Gesendet: Montag, 4. April 2016 15:08
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
By comparison to the presidential contest, the tone was very mild!
Did you see Jimmy Kimmel’s American Girl & Boy Dolls Presidential Collection?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FYHPr7TL2AY
From: Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 8:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
I am not being defensive about Ignite, as I stated in my email.... I
am having a reaction to the tone of your question. If you were to look at my
posts you will also see that I have expressed similar feelings to others in
regards to how they ask the question... irrespective of who they are asking
about. I also apologized for this being a personality defect in myself.
The Cut & Paste was not for your benefit, but for others who lurk in
the forums.
There is nothing wrong with running an iperf test.. but you
specifically asked for the test to be run in a very particular way, from very
particular pieces of equipment.....
My apologies if I am over reacting.... WISP's have many many great
attributes, however there is one attribute which would be nice to change for
the better.... Our Attitudes towards the mfg. and the default presumption of a
'conspiracy' or 'they are trying to pull a fast one on us'..... along with it
also having enough fortitude to asking the MFG and or their representatives the
technical questions before coming to the open forums and taking an opinion
poll....
ok, I will now get off my soap box.
Regards
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
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From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:52:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
For somebody who doesn't own a piece of the company and doesn't
work there, you're extremely defensive. I don't need a copied and pasted
explanation of what FDD and TDD are.
How in any way whatsoever is it inappropriate to run iperf tests on
a newly released PTP bridge radio?
On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz
<fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:
like I said before.. ask the question directly... no need for
the cloak and dagger ...
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Frequency-division duplexing (FDD) is a method for establishing a
full-duplex communications link that uses two different radio frequencies for
transmitter and receiver operation. The transmit direction and receive
direction frequencies are separated by a defined frequency offset. In the
microwave realm, the primary advantages of this approach are:
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NO THEY ARE NOT FDD.
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Time-division duplexing (TDD) is a method for emulating
full-duplex communication over a half-duplex communication link. The
transmitter and receiver both use the same frequency but transmit and receive
traffic is switched in time. The primary advantages of this approach as it
applies to microwave communication are:
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YES They are TDD. ( The notation of 1gig aggregate should have
give this away ! )
Like all new products, they are making improvements with firmware
updates. The published specs are 'conservative'.
These are the first radios of their kind in the market place... I
think you will need to modify your thinking about them, cause you keep
comparing them to the other existing (much more expensive) radios in the market
place.
Anything else you would like to know ?
Feel free to ask......
BTW, FWIW, I don't work for Ignite, nor do I own a piece of the
company (would love to buy stock in them if I could). I am on the beta testers
of the product... There is something about the tone of your question that is
rubbing me the wrong way, my apologies if I am over reacting...... I normally
expect the proper professional decorum to be.. ask the question directly, and
only if that is not answered or if the answer is not straight forward then it
is ok to imply some intentional obfuscation..... not the other way around !
:)
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
supp...@snappytelecom.net
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From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:14:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
I'm not trying to prove or disprove anything, just to compare
them with existing line rate 60 GHz FDD solutions.
The datasheet says 1Gbps aggregate throughput but nowhere does
it say specifically if they're FDD or TDD in the 60 GHz band:
http://www.ignitenet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/IgniteNet_MetroLinq.pdf
On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Faisal Imtiaz
<fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:
What exactly are you looking to prove of dis-prove with such
a test ?
Iperf is iperf, what difference does it make how it is run....
Are you asking the question 'How much data I can push thru
with these radios ?'..... the question has been answered multiple times...
the radios are (as per specs, 1gig half duplex, thus giving
you 500meg x 500meg performance.)
The Radio side is using 2ghz wide channel, and the latest
firmware is showing 700meg x 700meg performance....
What is the problem with this ? if you think Ignite is lying
about the specs, buy a pair, do the testing you like, with pink, blue, or
purple laptop of your choice and if you don't like them, send them back !... or
someone will be happy to buy them from you ... they are in short supply as it
is ....
:)
Regards.
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
supp...@snappytelecom.net
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From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 10:03:39 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
Anyone done a simultaneous bidirectional iperf test yet?
Preferably with something like a Thinkpad (Intel 1000BaseT NIC) running Linux
plugged into each end.
