That's what I said. If they insist on having it be copper it should be
802.3at. SFP radios by default fall into the category of "direct -48VDC
feed".



On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> No.  Wrong.  SFP SFP SFP.
>
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> On Aug 16, 2016 2:20 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In 3-4 years from now, if every new product is not either 802.3at
>> standards compliant PoE, or direct -48VDC feed (such as carrier-grade PTP
>> radios that have dual A and B power feeds), I will be really disappointed...
>>
>> Stop reinventing the wheel you crazy proprietary vendors. Your PoE
>> standard is not special or magical and you're wasting engineering hours
>> designing your own weird PoE.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> We are talking about the PMP450 AP.  Not the 450i AP.  Not any SM.  The
>>> "PMP450 AP"
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Christopher Tyler <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No, the 450i AP uses normal PoE. The SM/CPE requires a pin swap.
>>>>
>>>> "Access point is now 802.3at compatible and includes an AUX port, while
>>>> the Subscriber can re-use the 30 VDC power supplies common to the PMP 100
>>>> platform"
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher Tyler
>>>> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>>>> Total Highspeed Internet Services
>>>> 417.851.1107
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:05:36 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>>>>
>>>> 450, not 450i
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Christopher Tyler <
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > The 450i AP's use standard PoE. It's not reversed.
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Christopher Tyler
>>>> > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>>>> > Total Highspeed Internet Services
>>>> > 417.851.1107
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>>>> > To: [email protected]
>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:00:48 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>>>> >
>>>> > Change the pinout I believe.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Josh Luthman
>>>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> > 1100 Wayne St
>>>> > Suite 1337
>>>> > Troy, OH 45373
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> > >
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > how do you do gigabit with the 24v polarity needing reversed?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>> > [email protected]
>>>> > > > wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> 24v and 48v but Netonix does both
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Josh Luthman
>>>> > >> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> > >> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> > >> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> > >> Suite 1337
>>>> > >> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>> > >> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>> pmp450 and pmp450i have different poe voltages
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Craig House <
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>> It will work we're using it in many places
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:30, Bill Prince <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> It will probably power it, but it won't provide sync.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> bp
>>>> > >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> On 8/16/2016 10:18 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Hello all,
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and
>>>> 802.3at
>>>> > >>>> PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will
>>>> work?
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Thanks
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> --
>>>> > >>>> Darin Steffl
>>>> > >>>> Minnesota WiFi
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>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

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