Don't give them the idea of POE then! =P

Josh Luthman
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On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> wrote:

> That's what I said. If they insist on having it be copper it should be
> 802.3at. SFP radios by default fall into the category of "direct -48VDC
> feed".
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Josh Luthman <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> No.  Wrong.  SFP SFP SFP.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Aug 16, 2016 2:20 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> In 3-4 years from now, if every new product is not either 802.3at
>>> standards compliant PoE, or direct -48VDC feed (such as carrier-grade PTP
>>> radios that have dual A and B power feeds), I will be really disappointed...
>>>
>>> Stop reinventing the wheel you crazy proprietary vendors. Your PoE
>>> standard is not special or magical and you're wasting engineering hours
>>> designing your own weird PoE.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We are talking about the PMP450 AP.  Not the 450i AP.  Not any SM.  The
>>>> "PMP450 AP"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Christopher Tyler <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No, the 450i AP uses normal PoE. The SM/CPE requires a pin swap.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Access point is now 802.3at compatible and includes an AUX port,
>>>>> while the Subscriber can re-use the 30 VDC power supplies common to the 
>>>>> PMP
>>>>> 100 platform"
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Christopher Tyler
>>>>> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>>>>> Total Highspeed Internet Services
>>>>> 417.851.1107
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:05:36 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>>>>>
>>>>> 450, not 450i
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Christopher Tyler <
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > The 450i AP's use standard PoE. It's not reversed.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Christopher Tyler
>>>>> > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>>>>> > Total Highspeed Internet Services
>>>>> > 417.851.1107
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>>>>> > To: [email protected]
>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:00:48 PM
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Change the pinout I believe.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Josh Luthman
>>>>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> > 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> > Suite 1337
>>>>> > Troy, OH 45373
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > how do you do gigabit with the 24v polarity needing reversed?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>> > [email protected]
>>>>> > > > wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >> 24v and 48v but Netonix does both
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Josh Luthman
>>>>> > >> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> > >> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> > >> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> > >> Suite 1337
>>>>> > >> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>>> > >> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> pmp450 and pmp450i have different poe voltages
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Craig House <
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >>> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>> It will work we're using it in many places
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:30, Bill Prince <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> It will probably power it, but it won't provide sync.
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> bp
>>>>> > >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> On 8/16/2016 10:18 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> Hello all,
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and
>>>>> 802.3at
>>>>> > >>>> PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will
>>>>> work?
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> Thanks
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> --
>>>>> > >>>> Darin Steffl
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>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
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