P.P.S.... But you will (generally) want to use the latest version of altos
when in pad (vert.) mode. On my (arch-)linux machine it is simple to
restart altos into any of several versions that are extent on the laptop,
so this "fix" works A.O.K. for me. I also tend to use the "serial" de-bug
mode and run the altosui script "executed in terminal" so I can see the
program interacting with the teledongle in real time. This is a GREAT
feature that Keith added, and you can enable it using the "Serial Debug"
button in the "Configure AltosUI" sub-window.

On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 8:25 AM, w9ya <[email protected]> wrote:

> P.S. Or (possibly) version 1.4.x.....
>
> On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 8:24 AM, w9ya <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Possible fix: Try altos version 1.3.2 for IDLE (horiz.) mode
>> communications via radio. (Same symptoms here, that was the work-around I
>> found.)
>>
>> es vy 73 om de Bob, w9ya
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 1:13 AM, Winton H. E. Davies <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually when I set it in pad mode, it lit up everything, and worked
>>> fine!!!
>>>
>>> I just can't get Idle mode to display any information via TeleDongle (I
>>> can via USB). I know there's some weird Simplex mode going on, but I was
>>> sure I'd been able to use the radio in IDLE mode to see the status last
>>> time I used it.
>>>
>>> I am able to ARM/FIRE in Idle mode, so that bit works just fine!
>>>
>>> Ok... I think I'm going to let it remain charging tonight, and see what
>>> happens tomorrow !
>>>
>>> Winton
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Casey Barker <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have you tried orienting it in pad mode and trying to monitor flight?
>>>> If you have a 70 cm radio, you could listen for the tones. (It's likely
>>>> someone at the launch will have the right radio gear if you don't.)
>>>>
>>>> I know you're flying tomorrow, so worst case, you could just configure
>>>> it over USB and fly it without the benefit of live telemetry.
>>>>
>>>> Case
>>>>
>>>> On Fri Dec 05 2014 at 11:55:22 PM Winton H. E. Davies <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok, very weird, when I realized I could talk to it with the USB cable,
>>>>> everything looks ok -- I just can't connect with the Teledongle - I tried 
>>>>> 2
>>>>> laptops, both with same issue. Tried scanning channels, switching etc.
>>>>>  yes, it's horizontal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas how I can test to see if the radio is transmitting?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Altitude 23 m GPS state wait (10)   Height 0 m GPS locked   Max height 0
>>>>> m Satellites 9   Acceleration -10.7 m/s² Latitude N 37°45.60840'   Max
>>>>> acceleration -9.8 m/s² Longitude W 122°28.05320'   Speed 0.0 m/s GPS
>>>>> altitude 95.0   Max Speed 0.0 m/s GPS height 0.0   Temperature 37.06
>>>>> °C GPS ground speed 0.0 m/s 0°   Battery 4.07 V GPS climb rate 0.0 m/s
>>>>> Drogue 3.64 V    Main 3.65 V    CRC Errors 0
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Casey Barker <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmmm...  The 3 dashes seem ok-ish, though I would have expected it to
>>>>>> hit a full 4+ volts after a few hours of charging. Perhaps my cell has 
>>>>>> gone
>>>>>> bad, too? It had been sitting (disconnected, at storage voltage) for 
>>>>>> quite
>>>>>> a while.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't understand the second set of dashes, though. Is it oriented
>>>>>> horizontally for idle mode?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Casey
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri Dec 05 2014 at 11:26:50 PM Winton H. E. Davies <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmm, mine battery was DOA. Casey gave me his battery, removed the
>>>>>>> current protector, seemed nominal 3.7V.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, after leaving it on charge for about 4 hours, there was no
>>>>>>> led showing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I turn it on I get a red LED and some beeps (sounds like its going
>>>>>>> ok), but no radio signal picked up by base station.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sounds like:   dash-dash-dash  LONG PAUSE dash-dash PAUSE  dit-dit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I put it into charge again though it shows a yellow/orange
>>>>>>> color -- which the manual says is a bad battery?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any ideas, or do I need to just order some new batteries?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>    Winton
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Winton H. E. Davies <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cool!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks so much Casey!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> W
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Casey Barker <[email protected]
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, 2pm is fine. I'm at US-MTV-CYD-1, which is at 1300 Villa
>>>>>>>>> Street. Take the first entrance off of Villa, then drive back and 
>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>> the east end of the campus to find the 1300 door. You should have 
>>>>>>>>> access to
>>>>>>>>> that lobby, but the rest of the building is locked down. Ping me on 
>>>>>>>>> IM when
>>>>>>>>> you get here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If a charger is going to work, it should only take a few minutes.
>>>>>>>>> If not, we might have a cell that you can use.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Casey
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri Dec 05 2014 at 9:57:48 AM Winton H. E. Davies <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Casey,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No joy with the USB charging over-night. :-(
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What's your office location - will 2pm work?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>  Winton
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Winton H. E. Davies <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cool - I'll have my car with me if this thing doesn't boot in
>>>>>>>>>>> the morning, I'll ping you after lunch. I have a pre-existing lunch
>>>>>>>>>>> appointment in MTV tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> W
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Casey Barker <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Winton,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Definitely try what Keith suggests. In my limited experience,
>>>>>>>>>>>> LiPos usually perk back up just fine unless you actually drain 
>>>>>>>>>>>> them too low
>>>>>>>>>>>> with a load.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Failing that, I just moved to an off-campus lab, where we have
>>>>>>>>>>>> a whole rack of beefy LiPo chargers. :) It's not far, though. Ping 
>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>> tomorrow afternoon and we can meet up. There's even a shuttle, if 
>>>>>>>>>>>> you'd
>>>>>>>>>>>> like to swing by. Or maybe I could make LUNAR lunch...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Casey
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu Dec 04 2014 at 9:55:13 PM Winton H. E. Davies <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ew, I don't have a regular charger. Any chance you have one I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could borrow from you tomorrow (Im down in MTV).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> W
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Casey Barker <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Winton,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure if this is the issue or not, but I've several times
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had LiPos fall below the minimum voltage needed to satisfy the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> circuit. Usually, you just need to "jump start" it, either with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a "real"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lipo charger,  or a current-limited bench supply, or even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a big resistor and another 3.7V lipo cell. Once there's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough charge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the cell, the regular charge circuit will work again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Casey
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu Dec 04 2014 at 9:22:44 PM Winton H. E. Davies <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, I haven't used my Altusmetrum for a year or so. Battery
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems completely flat. When I connect to the USB cable no LEDs 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come on,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless I press the on-switch, at which point I get a red and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yellow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flashing at the same time and a constant 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be -- Any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas? Scared it might have died!! Have a launch Saturday 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morning!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Winton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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