Hi Folk, All ballasted to the gills......personally I am not interested in the Open Class handicap discussion as I don.t think the intent is to balance across such a great divide as Nimbus 2 3 and 4 let alone an ASW20 with ballast to get equivalent competitiveness.
Sports class handicaps is where this matters because of the stated intent to provide an even playing field and these are dry, so comparisons when so called good pilots flew are meaningless. 19/20m gliders dry fly at circa 30kg/m they were never intended to fly on an average Aussie day at anything less than full, Other stats would be interesting like the average thermal strength for the competition period each day and how that has changed over time as we have changed tasking, compensated for the average weather conditions for that year. Now there is a real statistical challenge for someone :-) Best Regards, Mike Durrant VH-FQF On 19/08/2011, at 3:49 PM, Mike Borgelt <[email protected]> wrote: > At 03:24 PM 19/08/2011, you wrote: >> Well, I can't help much but here goes. I don't have any results from >> Narromine 1978, and I have points results but no speeds from Waikerie 81. >> >> Average winners speeds were: >> >> Year Place Open 15M Std >> 77 Renmark 112.9 (.94) 106.6 (.97) 103.5 >> 79 Cunderdin 97.1 (.99) 96.6 (.91) 87.8 >> 80 Benalla 114.4 (.97) 110.8 (.93) 102.5 >> >> Overall 108.1 (.97) 104.7 (.94) >> 97.9 > > Thanks, Tim. > I wasn't there but they were still talking about the great weather at Renmark > the next year at Narromine. > Cunderdin was low and blue with broken thermals so the Open class may have > been at a disadvantage in the climbs at times. > The Benalla contest was a good mix of weather and these results would seem to > show that the Open Class gliders of the day, mainly Nimbus 2s were a bit > better than the ASW20 etc. Maybe the feeling that they aren't as good is > because of the pilots nowadays? > > Mike > > > > Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 > phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 > fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 > cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 > > email: [email protected] > website: www.borgeltinstruments.com > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
