True according to the rules, but according to my records ASW20's have only ever flown against Nimbus 2's when forced to by class combinations, and that was before the introduction of the 18 metre class.

If an ASW20 and a Nimbus 2 entered the Open Class in the multiclass nationals today, they would be flying at the same handicap.

Cheers


 /Tim/

/tra dire e fare c'è mezzo il mare/


On 19/08/2011 11:30, Ross McLean wrote:

Hi Tim

Sorry but I beg to differ on that one. Open Class means exactly that. An ASW20 and a Nimbus 2 can both happily compete in Open Class. They probably can't win but they can compete.

ROSS

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In Club/Sports the two are in different classes, and in Multiclass even if classes are combined then Open flies with 18m and 15m flies with Standard.

A Nimbus 2 and an ASW20 can never compete under current rules.

Cheers


  /Tim/

/tra dire e fare c'è mezzo il mare/


On 19/08/2011 3:49, Mike Borgelt wrote:

At 03:24 PM 19/08/2011, you wrote:

Well, I can't help much but here goes. I don't have any results from Narromine 1978, and I have points results but no speeds from Waikerie 81.

Average winners speeds were:

Year    Place                Open                    15M        Std
77        Renmark           112.9 (.94)       106.6  (.97)         103.5
79 Cunderdin 97.1 (.99) 96.6 (.91) 87.8 80 Benalla 114.4 (.97) 110.8 (.93) 102.5

Overall 108.1 (.97) 104.7 (.94) 97.9


Thanks, Tim.
I wasn't there but they were still talking about the great weather at Renmark the next year at Narromine. Cunderdin was low and blue with broken thermals so the Open class may have been at a disadvantage in the climbs at times. The Benalla contest was a good mix of weather and these results would seem to show that the Open Class gliders of the day, mainly Nimbus 2s were a bit better than the ASW20 etc. Maybe the feeling that they aren't as good is because of the pilots nowadays?

Mike



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