Congratulations. That is the link you needed. There are still questions that need to be figured out. This passport record states she is married so her marriage must have been in Ribeirinha Unfortunately the records after 1905 are not posted on the CCA. The passport record is very hard to read Margaret is a wizard a reading the hardest of records. I was wondering who the person is above her is? He/She is also from Ribeirinha? This writing is hard to read I can only make the person’s fathers name Jose Pacheco.
Here is the marriage of Lucinda’s parents Miguel de Arruda and Maria Julia Ferreira: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1873-1879/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-C-1873-1879_item1/P78.html You have a dead end with Miguel de Arruda as he is an exposto. Rick From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Margaret Vicente Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 12:45 AM To: azores Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955) It looks like you found your Lucinda. The birth record for 1881 is the correct person the father is Miguel de Arruda and the mother is Maria Julia Ferreira. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1880-1889/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1880-1889_item1/P60.html Going to America in 1911. Her age at the time was 29 and she was Married. The writing is very tiny but readable. Please see # 484 http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1910-1911/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1910-1911_item1/P81.html On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 10:41 PM, JR <[email protected]> wrote: Although, you specified Ribeirinha, you should know Aveiro's can be found in Ribeira Seca, which like Ribeirinha can be found in Ribeira Grande. The point is, sometimes people moved around even though they would list only one freguesia as their native place. Your Lucinda may be in one of the four or five freguesias around Ribeira Grande. JR On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 10:10:46 PM UTC-4, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: I searched the obits and did not find anything on this Lucinda. So I would put her in the mix. The problem I see is this would put her age off from the 1920 census which says she was 37. This would make her 39 off by two years, not necessarily a deal breaker but enough to try and find more evidence. What is the complete snippit with the three names? Can you link the whole thing? The problem with that is the name is Manuel instead of Miguel as on this latest Lucinda record. Rick From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cheryle Dougherty Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 5:35 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955) Richard look on your baptism data base and look at 1881 #16. There is a Lucinda with parents Miguel Arruda and Maria Julia Feriera. I haven't figured out the rest yet. On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <[email protected]> wrote: Ok I did a search of the obits 1883 through 1887 and found the deaths of two of the Lucinda’s, That leaves one born on 3 Feb 1884 daughter of Francisco Jose Raposo and Rosa de Jesus. (CCA 1884 #0010) Rick From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Francis Pimentel Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 10:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955) To add to all this confusion here is another Lucinda born 21 May 1883: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1880-1889/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1880-1889_item1/P142.html This record was just a page before the record of Honero. I will note in all three of the Lucinca’s there are no margin notes on the records. The next step is to check Obitos. And see if I can find any deaths to try and eliminate any of them. Of all three I like this one born in 1883 the best. Somehow I feel uncomfortable about this Manuel Arruda being the father. I have a very large data base coming from Ribeirinha and there is only one Manuel Arruda that married and is about the right age but looking at all the births in 1883 and 1884 they did not have any girls born to this couple. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Francis Pimentel Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 11:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955) Ok I am confused. Most ship logs I have seen it just names the passenger not the names of the parents (unless they are also passengers). I looked at the 1920 US census earlier today and it says that Honerio came to the US in 1908 and Lucinda came in 1912. Is there a way you can show the complete record of the snippit you show below? The birth years on the 1920 census agree with the information you have shown us so far. Unless you can show positive information on tying Manuel Arruda to Lucinda I am inclined to believe that your Lucinda is one of the two Lucinda’s we have found in the records for 1884. Lucinda would have sailed from the Acores using her name and not the last name of Honerio. This is why I am inclined to believe that it is one of the two Lucinda’s At the start of this thread you said the ship she arrived on was the Romanic in 1911. The Romanic last arrived in NY in Nov of 1910. Was this the port she arrived at? I have to go back and see if the census says anything about when she married. If she was single when she arrived in the US then she could have married in Attleboro. If she married in the Acores then it must have been after 1905. Rick From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 10:08 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lucinda Pacheco (1884-1955) Father Manuel Arruda, Ribeirinha Father Alexandre M. Caral, Urselina Father Jose C. Pacheco Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Cheryle Dougherty <[email protected]> wrote: Ok, back to the records again. Here is where I got the name Manuel Arruba for her father's name. This was on the same line as her name in ship log. She is listed as Lucinda Pachaco Averio and her friend that she is coming to is Honerio Pacheco Averio (my uncle) It is the first line. Maybe you might come up with a different name. This was on ancestry. <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154489993603589&set=gm.658102424374883&type=3> Image may contain: text <https://www.facebook.com/groups/438321819686279/permalink/658102424374883/?comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22O%22%7D> 3 Comments -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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