On 11/4/2012 10:33 AM, Mike Burke wrote: > >>>>I think the answer to this is that Augustine is dealing > specifically with a theological issue, not a lexical one. Have a look > at the specific context of his statements:<<<< > > I read the context, and I understand he's dealing with a theological > issue, but the quote seems to make much less sense if he mean "complete." > > I hated in them their iniquities, I loved Your creation. This it is to > hate with a complete hatred, that neither on account of the vices thou > hate the men, nor on account of the men love the vices. > > >>>>Now, I'm not going to comment on his solution, but simply observe > that it does not mean imputing the later developed idea > of "perfect" (i.e., morally without flaw) into the word, but that a > "complete" hatred can be exercised as long as the object of that hatred > is the proper object.<<<< > > But the object would seem to be "them." > > It doesn't make any sense to me (and I don't see how it could make any > sense to Augustine or his readers) to suggest that a "complete" hatred > of "them" was just a hatred of their vices, but it might make sense to > suggest that a (morally) perfect hatred of "them" was a hatred of their > vices. > > Someone said TAKLIYT contains the idea of "goal, or purpose," did > "perfectum" contain the same idea (and could that have implied moral > perfection to Augustine)?
I have given what I think to be an adequate answer to your questions, and have not intention of pursuing it further. Having seen some of your posts on b-Greek, it seem clear to me that you have not studied any of the languages about which you are asking questions in any meaningful sense. I would suggest carefully listening to those who have. -- N.E. Barry Hofstetter Semper melius Latine sonat The American Academy http://www.theamericanacademy.net The North American Reformed Seminary http://www.tnars.net Bible Translation Magazine http://www.bible-translation.net http://my.opera.com/barryhofstetter/blog _______________________________________________ b-hebrew mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-hebrew
