When I awoke his morning, my phone announced that it had a new version
to install (iOS9 beta 3).
The short story is that the Apple iOS developers seem to have corrected
the problem described below -- J looks very nice again and the keyboard
works as expected. Some other annoyances interacting with Siri (not
involving J) also seem to have been fixed. Now I have to look for other
things to be annoyed about...
It is still the case that J, not having iTunes data sharing on, is still
not in the iExplorer Apps list. I'm still hoping that Eric will try a
release requesting that be available, there may even be a few other
goodies that could be thrown in (although none immediately leap to
mind). When I think about the many gigabyte flood of downloads for apps
(e.g. at least 100 megabytes/week just for Facebook) I smile and feel
good about enjoying the use of a very stable and reliable product.
This is the second case where an annoyance in J's iOS interface has been
fixed (the first was an issue around the introduction of retina
displays) without any update from Jsoftware. Nice when beta tests
actually fix problems before they are released to a larger audience.
- joey
On 2015/08/04 10:17 , Joey K Tuttle wrote:
Patrick,
In the first beta release of iOS9 a problem appeared that was annoying
but not disabling. In the second beta release (last week) it got
worse, more annoying, and makes the "landscape" view of j totally
useless. I have some screen shots available at http://qued.com/iOS9/
(since they can't be included in forum emails). One reason I've been
putting off commenting about this stuff is that I keep thinking I
should set up a wiki page so that people could share experiences with
iOS J (including graphics etc.) but that always gets put off... (maybe
you and I and/or other interested parties could collaborate in setting
up such a page ;-)
In any case, if you look at the 3 images, they show what happens in
beta2 of iOS9 in a freshly started J session having executed
i. 3 4
then rotating the phone to landscape view (how I prefer to use J
because the keyboard is a bit bigger).
As you can see, the keyboard retains its size from portrait view AND
the portrait view of the whole work area is crammed into the landscape
view (losing the lines of output). Furthermore, when the phone is
rotated back to portrait view, the output area reappears, but the
keyboard is fatally damaged...
It is possible to recover from that disturbing result by poking the
"sandwich" icon twice. So, as long as I only use portrait view (and
don't accidentally rotate the phone) I can continue to use J. My
current workaround is to turn on rotation lock in the "quick settings
swish up display" (I don't know what the official name for that
feature is...) But, I really miss the landscape view of J - and it is
annoying to have to change settings back and forth.
It is possible that the next build of iOS9 beta will make a
difference, perhaps for the worse ... I say that because the first
build failed to materialize the expanded keyboard in landscape - but a
correct keyboard could be gotten with two taps on the sandwich. In the
second build, that annoying workaround evolved into the mess described
above (sigh).
I suspect this all has to do with some adjustments/corrections that
involve other devices (e.g. the watch or some such). I have also
noticed similar (but not as bad) results in other apps. What beta
tests are about I suppose. I have yet to give
Apple feedback as I agreed to do for/by running the beta versions of
iOS9...
Thanks for the guide to moving things in/out of a jail broken phone.
I'm sure Apple would like to lock down jail breakers, but I have no
experience with it. It would be MUCH better if iTunes file sharing
permission was available, and that would seem like the best way to go.
- joey
On 2015/08/04 08:22 , J. Patrick Harrington wrote:
Joey,
I would be interested your comments about iOS 9. (I'm running
j64-804 on a Mac-mini under OS 10.10.4, a PC under Windows 7 and a
linux box at
work, all with no problems.) A couple of weeks ago I replaced my iPhone
with a new 6 plus, and as I wrote earlier, was really annoyed that I can
no longer move files in and out of J using iTunes. After messing with
cut
and paste, I was so frustrated that I've now jailbroken my phone
using the
TaiG exploit (works smoothly, by the way). So now I use the free program
"Fugu" to make a wifi Open SSH connection with the phone. You get two
side-by-side windows with the desktop and the iPhone directories and can
just drag files back and forth, etc. This is after finally finding the J
files at /private/var/mobil/Containers/Data/Application/
E23AFCD9-4FFD-464C-9682-4D08F8E7C0BE/Documents/ !
Not easy to find things in the iPhone file structure :-(
What I wonder about is whether I will be stuck at iOS 8.4 forever. I
have
heard rumors that iOS 9 will not be jailbreak-able. What sort of
problems
are there with J under iOS 9? It would really be great if we could get
approval to share J files in iTunes ...
Patrick
On Mon, 3 Aug 2015, some of what Joey K Tuttle wrote:
I do make a lot of use of J in Apple environments OS X 10 - I'm
currently running j64-804 in a beta version of OS X 10.11, El
Capitan,where it seems to behave quite well. I'm running J in a beta
of iOS9 where it has some serious GUI problems - I keep intending to
post a separate note about my troubles in that case.
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