Interesting point, Devin!
Your point seem to be in accordance with Luke's one.
However, as we (John - I think - and I have said), just because we're blind in real life, doesn't mean we have/need to be when playing, after all, it's a game. Whatever road, though, would bring us a lot of fun. I imagine the other players would actually be surprised if they ever see a person with a cane among them. Lol

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Em 19/03/2019 09:58, Devin Prater escreveu:
I really think Virtual reality would be great for learning to use sensory substitution things, like the vOICe, at seeingwithsound.com <http://seeingwithsound.com>

Besides that though, being able to see in a VR game would be really hard to simulate for a blind person, unless the things we use, like a virtual cane and such, were invissible for other players. And even then, we'd be slower than others, just by the fact that we'd have more info to take in, we'd have to physically explore our enviornment with the cane rather than just turn the head to look around, and, so things wouldn't be equal. However, this doesn't negate how much fun we'd have, just like current video games. Shoot, I could play Dissidia Final Fantasy for hours, using OCR of course, but its still fun as heck.
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On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:34 AM marcio via Groups.Io <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hmm, I think you're right, I hadn't considered it all.
    But still (not that it's possible for now), what if someday they
    could develop a kind of technology capable of make you feel this
    sensation and forget about it right away?
    Of course I don't know how it could be done but I tell you, when
    it comes to technology, I won't doubt anything, not anymore.
    Even though, your point is  still valid. Before accepting such
    complex concept, one needs to think of the implications it would
    carry along, of course, with the good things.
    A long way to go, isn't it?
    Cheers,
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    Em 19/03/2019 09:20, john escreveu:

    Here's the thing: just because a sensation was created by a game,
    doesn't mean you didn't experience that sensation. If games got
    realistic enough that they could fully simulate reality and you
    faceplanted the sidewalk, it doesn't matter that your nose isn't
    broken in real life, you'll still experience what it would be
    like, and you'll remember that experience.

    So yeah, when you quit the game (presumably almost immediately
    because broken bones hurt) you'll be back in the "real" reality
    and your nose won't be broken anymore, but you'll still remember
    what it felt like, and that's where a lot of trauma comes from.

    You've probably paid someone to mutilate your body before (ever
    had teeth pulled?), but you (hopefully) don't remember it and
    have no lasting impact, because you were asleep for the process,
    and didn't experience any of it.

    So in short - just because it's artificially created sensation
    doesn't mean it's not sensation, and that's where true VR gets
    terrifying (because it doesn't always have to be in the context
    of a game you play willingly).


    *From:* marcio via Groups.Io
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    *Sent:* Monday, March 18, 2019 23:43
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [blind-gamers] food for thought: How far you would
    go as to merging your reality with the gaming one?

    I agree. But it's still about gaming, so, even if you were
    confused with the two realities, you always would have the "exit
    door".

    Some experiences, of course, wouldn't be that cool to have :) but
    well, apart from the feelings, sensation, it's nothing more than
    a game :)


    Cheers,
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    Em 18/03/2019 08:12, john escreveu:
    This would be awesome, depending on the game. Game worlds can be
    a lot harsher than reality, and as incredible as it might be to
    experience some of them, others... not so much.

    *From:* marcio via Groups.Io
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    *Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2019 19:32
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* [blind-gamers] food for thought: How far you would go
    as to merging your reality with the gaming one?

    Hello folks,

    Just now I was randomly chatting with one person and then the
    "virtual reality" subject matter came up.

    So was wondering, what you guys think about this concept? How
    far you would go with it and why?

    Do you have any interest into a more complex concept behind this
    all which maybe could even confuse you as to what's your reality
    and what's the gaming one?

    Thoughts are welcome :)

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    Cheers,
    Marcio AKA /Starboy/
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