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* Reservation System - 1 messages, 1 author
 
http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/788667e10b91d891
* "Diseasemongering" To Boost Pharma Profits. - 1 messages, 1 author
 
http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/b6ee0497db296ed8
* reservation and Dr. udit raj - 1 messages, 1 author
 
http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/31e264dd84a2f751
* reservation, regarding article of Dr. udit raj - 1 messages, 1 author
 
http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/211762b430495bcd

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TOPIC: Reservation System
http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/788667e10b91d891
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Date: Sun, Apr 16 2006 4:56 am 
From: "Amit"  

Dear Friends,

For past so many days I am reading various mails regarding Reservation
System and its ills. Interestingly most of us gave personal and
one-sided views. Remember clearly that we are not here to represent our
caste, religion or region and we are neither here to impose our
personal views but to think, discuss and reach a consensus as to what
is best to our citizens and country. We are here for the Nation.

It has to be presumed that the socially and economically backward class
may not be aware of how they can uplift themselves. It becomes the
moral duty of the intellects to think of what will help our brothers,
impartially and without any prejudice.

We all know the pro and cons of the reservation system, we also know
the school of thoughts that oppose them and support them and it is
illogical to discuss the same, as it will not give us any constructive
output helpful to us. It also cannot be denied that there exists
casteism in India, the root of all evils, which also becomes one of the
reasons for reservations.

We all have consensus that the socially and economically backward class
should be uplifted. We all agree that every person must be treated with
dignity and equality. Practically we all see the opposite of this. We
all will agree that there should not be any economic gap and every one
must enjoy a decent standard of living.

Forget about the backward class, let us think of everyone it will also
include them.

1.      Compulsory and free primary and secondary education. Providing means
and environment essential for learning.
2.      Food (RDA), pure water and proper shelter to everyone.
3.      Legal aid, speedy justice; checks and balance for the police system
to ensure might does not become right.
4.      Employment for all; if not unemployment benefits.
5.      Dignity to work.
6.      Affordable health care facilities to all.
7.      Affordable higher education and change in education system to
produce thinkers rather than examinees.
8.      Basic amenities and infrastructure in all villages. Abolish the
difference between rural and urban areas.
9.      Equal standard of living.
10.     Building individuals who will think of the last common man in all
decisions rather than thinking of other criterias and
11.     Removal and prevention of all types of injustice.

These are some points that will help in bringing equality. You can add
other that you feel will develop our nation. If everyone has a decent
standard of living, means of livelihood, dignity, and equality there
will not be any need of reservation even if we fail to remove caste
system. Casteism is a fact.

A developed nation is a nation where all citizens are equal in all
respects. What developments we make in different fields are immaterial
if we cannot give everyone a decent standard of living.

For us having or not having reservation must not be an issue. We are
here with high aims and ideals. Ideals of wiping tears of all eyes from
our country and if possible from the world. Such issue will not help
our mission. Let us think of eradicating the main causes that give rise
to many such different issues.

All issues are interlinked and we cannot solve issues individually. If
we start thinking of issues individually, it will not take us anywhere
as they will create many other problems. Let us concentrate on how we
can achieve the above goals.

I think it will be better if we prepare a blue print of development of
our nation than thinking on individual issues. Overall and equal
development will remove many such issues. For me castesim, poverty and
caste system is an issue, which is the cause of reservations.


Jai Hind
Amit Karande.

"We have only one Passion,
    Rise of a Great Nation."





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TOPIC: "Diseasemongering" To Boost Pharma Profits.
http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/b6ee0497db296ed8
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Date: Thurs, Apr 13 2006 10:37 pm 
From: Jagannath Chatterjee  



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Subject: [NVIC] "Diseasemongering" To Boost Profits
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:56:52 -0400
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2128371,00.html
The Times, UK


April 11, 2006

Drugs companies 'inventing diseases to boost their profits'
By Mark Henderson, Science Correspondent


Pharmaceutical companies are systematically creating diseases in order to
sell more of their products, turning healthy people into patients and
placing many at risk of harm, a special edition of a leading medical journal
claims today.

The practice of “diseasemongering” by the drug industry is promoting
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The special issue, edited by David Henry, of Newcastle University in
Australia, and Ray Moynihan, an Australian journalist, reports that
conditions such as female sexual dysfunction, attention deficit
hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and “restless legs syndrome” have been
promoted by companies hoping to sell more of their drugs.

Other minor problems that are a normal part of life, such as symptoms of the
menopause, are also becoming increasingly “medicalised”, while risk factors
such as high cholesterol levels or osteoporosis are being presented as
diseases in their own right, according to the editors.

“Disease-mongering turns healthy people into patients, wastes precious
resources and causes iatrogenic (medically induced) harm,” they say. “Like
the marketing strategies that drive it, disease-mongering poses a global
challenge to those interested in public health, demanding in turn a global
response.”

Doctors, patients and support groups need to be more aware that
pharmaceutical companies are taking this approach, and more research is
needed into the changing ways in which conditions are presented, according
to the writers.

Disease-awareness campaigns are often funded by drug companies, and “more
often designed to sell drugs than to illuminate or inform or educate about
the prevention of illness or the maintenance of health”, they say.

Particular conditions that are highlighted in the journal include sexual
function in both men and women. The prevalence of female sexual dysfunction,
one paper claims, has been highly exaggerated to provide a new market for
drugs, while the makers of anti-impotence medicines, such as Viagra and
Cialis, have been involved with their presentation as lifestyle drugs that
can boost the sexual prowess of healthy men.

Ordinary shyness is routinely presented as a social anxiety disorder and
treated with antidepressants, while newly identified conditions such as
“restless legs syndrome” — a constant urge to move one’s legs — are
presented as being much more common than they really are.

Richard Ley, of the Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry,
rejected the accusations, pointing out that Britain has firm safeguards
against disease-mongering. Many of the authors’ criticisms, he said, were
aimed squarely at countries such as the United States, where pharmaceuticals
can be openly advertised directly to patients.

“Drug companies are not allowed to communicate directly with patients, and
we do not invent diseases,” he said.

“We provide information that there are treatments out there that might help
certain conditions, but at the end of the day it is down to health
professionals to decide if they are appropriate.

“The best safeguard is that the doctor who knows the product and knows the
patient’s history is the one who decides what to prescribe.”


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TOPIC: reservation and Dr. udit raj
http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/31e264dd84a2f751
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Date: Sun, Apr 16 2006 8:31 am 
From: "vishwanath shukla"  

http://www.countercurrents.org/dalit-uditraj110105.htm  THERE ARE MANY
ARTICLES OVER THERE JUST GO THROUGH THEM, OR SEARCH FOR UDIT RAJ ON
GOOGLE.

Dear Friends
        what i think is that Dr. Udit Raj is a totally frustrated guy,
who always thinks on the separatist lines. What i felt by reading his
articles that he considers so called Dalits altogether different
indians, which i strongly condemn. He himself when does not consider
them as an integral of indian society then i don't understand how he
plans to strengthen their all round position.  WE PRESENT GENERATION
GUYS I THINK DON'T EVEN BRING TO OUR MINDS THE WORDS LIKE DALIT  OR
SC/ST WHILE MEETING OUR FRIENDS. I think some of them are just those
who have been denied justice and we should work for THAT keeping a
CONSTRUCTIVE  approach in our mind.
                                  More over our governments have failed
to right do things, for which partly we are responsible, initially
reservation was for few years and in that period governments had to pay
special attention to SOME OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS. But governments
failed to do so.
                                  Ok, here i would specially like to
attack congress and it's past leaders because they ruling the nation.
Why didn't they acheived targets which they had set, within stipulated
period of time. They are still fooling and looting the nation, and in
their this act they are now joined by other political parties.

vishwanath shukla





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TOPIC: reservation, regarding article of Dr. udit raj
http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/211762b430495bcd
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 16 2006 7:54 pm 
From: "vishwanath shukla"  

http://www.countercurrents.org/dalit-uditraj110105.htm  THERE ARE MANY
ARTICLES OVER THERE JUST GO THROUGH THEM, OR SEARCH FOR UDIT RAJ ON
GOOGLE.

Dear Friends
        what i think is that Dr. Udit Raj is a totally frustrated guy,
who always thinks on the separatist lines. What i felt by reading his
articles that he considers so called Dalits altogether different
indians, which i strongly condemn. He himself when does not consider
them as an integral of indian society then i don't understand how he
plans to strengthen their all round position.  WE PRESENT GENERATION
GUYS I THINK DON'T EVEN BRING TO OUR MINDS THE WORDS LIKE DALIT  OR
SC/ST WHILE MEETING OUR FRIENDS. I think some of them are just those
who have been denied justice and we should work for THAT keeping a
CONSTRUCTIVE  approach in our mind.
                                  More over our governments have failed
to right do things, for which partly we are responsible, initially
reservation was for few years and in that period governments had to pay
special attention to SOME OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS. But governments
failed to do so.
                                  Ok, here i would specially like to
attack congress and it's past leaders because they were  ruling the
nation. Why didn't they acheived targets which they had set, within
stipulated period of time. They are still fooling and looting the
nation, and in their this act they are now joined by other political
parties.




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