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* Chapter Activities! - 1 messages, 1 author
 
http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/45331296f50f1570
* BM Kanpur : Success in Passport Scandal - 1 messages, 1 author
 
http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/4c445549023418b4
* Fwd: Reservation Effect - 1 messages, 1 author
 
http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/52bc730b7bd143ee
* === Information About Teams and Team Members! === - 1 messages, 1 author
 
http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/85294f0ca3f54f9c

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TOPIC: Chapter Activities!
http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/45331296f50f1570
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 5 2006 2:53 pm 
From: "Moderator BharatUdayMission"  

This mail contains following topics :

1. BM CHENNAI :Meetings on 13.05.06 & 03.06.2006
 2 . Minutes of meeting – Nashik chapter

1. BM CHENNAI :Meetings on 13.05.06 & 03.06.2006

Meetings on 13.05.06 & 03.06.2006 attended by

   1. Ayyanar
   2. Gyan
   3. Jayalakshmi
   4. Kareem*
   5. Makranth*
   6. Malleeswaran*
   7. Nithya*
   8. Nitin
   9. Nivas*
   10. Pradeep
   11. Prahalathan
   12. Prakash
   13. Punit
   14. Shyam Prasad*
   15. Soundarya
   16. Surendran
   17. Vijay
   18. Vijay(IIT)*
   19. Vikram*
   20. Vyjaynthy
   21. Mr.Mahalingam*
   22. Mr.Nityananda Rajkumar*
   23. Mr.Premanand*
   24. Mr.Rajkumar*

* = New members

   - Concept and ideas behind BM were explained to the new members
   - A core group was formed to oversee and several smaller groups were
   formed to concentrate on each separate activity
   - Bala Mandir Group: Is conducting craft/Patriotism classes every
   Sunday
   - Organ Donation Group: Awareness session specially for BM members to
   be attended interested members on the 15th of June at MOHAN foundation.
   - Blood Donation Camp to be organized with the help of Lions' Blood
   Bank on 24.06.2006
   - School Activity Group: To identify three schools to conduct a pilot
   program on national awareness through Quiz, Essay, Skit and Music
   Competitions
   - School Activity Group: Books about India to be distributed among the
   school children to be identified.
   - Community Activity Group: To identify an area to start adult
   education, computer training and community movie programs
   - BM Library project: Pilot study to be conducted at Bala Mandir and
   to be expanded to 6-10 homes if successful
   - Finance Committee: Monthly fees were collected, to open bank account
   this month, to look for sources of funding for the above projects, to
   approach BM_USA for funding
   - BM Chennai Web Page launched on the main BM Website
   - Vijay/Surendran will represent the Chennai chapter apart from Gyanji
   at the National Executives meet at Jaipur



CHENNAI is finally rolling!
A call to all dormant members to start participating in meetings and
activities regularly.
Blood Donors: Please co-ordinate with Prakash: 9884361266
Everyone please try to attend the ORGAN DONATION awareness session to be
held especially for us on the 15th of June at MOHAN foundation. Please
co-ordinate with Surendran: 98845 02203



Regards,
Prahalathan.
http://www.prahalathan.blogspot.com/
http://www.yfechennai.blogspot.com/


2 . Minutes of meeting – Nashik chapter

BIG BOOST IN THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS!!!

Date: 4th June'06
Venue: SSY Hall, gangapur road

No. of members who attended: 33

1.     Aditya
2.     yashpal
3.     tushar
4.     manasi
5.     anshul
6.     upendra
7.     nupur
8.     abhilasha
9.     purva
10.     madhur
11.     sneha*
12.     dr. umesh*
13.     gaurav bagwe*
14.     ms sujata*
15.     amol loharkar*
16.     mr narayanan
17.     pranav
18.     chitkala*
19.     rahul sonawane*
20.     supriya*
21.     vandana*
22.     leelavati*
23.     ashish bohora*
24.     bharti*
25.     shreenivas*
26.     rashmi*
27.     aditi
28.     radhika
29.     madhuli*
30.     rishikesh*
31.     kedar*
32.     shailendra*
33.     amol deo*

(* marked are new members)
(real sorry if I missed any name)

Minutes:
1.     welcome of the new members and introductory session
2.     discussion on various activities that can be carried out.
3.     shortlisting of 2 activities: blood group identification drive and
tree plantation
4.     membership forms filled by all the members, wherein we get all the
details of the members including past experience in social work.
5.     committees for the 2 activities:
a.     tree plantation: ashish, nupur, rashmi, supriya, manasi, madhur,
sneha, chitkala, shrinivas, rahul, purva
b.     blood grp identification: pranav, rahul, upendra, dr. yashpal, dr.
umesh, dr. lilavati, dr. tushar
6.     formation of committees according to work nature:
a.     propagation (coor – supriya)
b.     projects (coor - ms. Sujata)
c.     finance (coor – pranav)
d.     fund raising( coor not decided)
e.     policy research and training and development (coor not decided)
f.     website (coor – upendra)
7.     the different teams then separated to prepare their plan of actions
(INDIVIDUAL TEAM COOR TO PUT UP THE DETAILS ON THE BM NASHIK GRP)
8.     collection of monthly contributions from members. Receipts given to
all.
9.     the tree plantation project given top priority, and work will
commence soon.
10.     next meeting decided on 18th June'06 (Sunday), same place but at 4
pm.
11.     national anthem



BIG BOOST IN THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS!!!

Date: 4th June'06
Venue: SSY Hall, gangapur road

No. of members who attended: 33

1.     Aditya
2.     yashpal
3.     tushar
4.     manasi
5.     anshul
6.     upendra
7.     nupur
8.     abhilasha
9.     purva
10.     madhur
11.     sneha*
12.     dr. umesh*
13.     gaurav bagwe*
14.     ms sujata*
15.     amol loharkar*
16.     mr narayanan
17.     pranav
18.     chitkala*
19.     rahul sonawane*
20.     supriya*
21.     vandana*
22.     leelavati*
23.     ashish bohora*
24.     bharti*
25.     shreenivas*
26.     rashmi*
27.     aditi
28.     radhika
29.     madhuli*
30.     rishikesh*
31.     kedar*
32.     shailendra*
33.     amol deo*

(* marked are new members)
(real sorry if I missed any name)

Minutes:
1.     welcome of the new members and introductory session
2.     discussion on various activities that can be carried out.
3.     shortlisting of 2 activities: blood group identification drive and
tree plantation
4.     membership forms filled by all the members, wherein we get all the
details of the members including past experience in social work.
5.     committees for the 2 activities:
a.     tree plantation: ashish, nupur, rashmi, supriya, manasi, madhur,
sneha, chitkala, shrinivas, rahul, purva
b.     blood grp identification: pranav, rahul, upendra, dr. yashpal, dr.
umesh, dr. lilavati, dr. tushar
6.     formation of committees according to work nature:
a.     propagation (coor – supriya)
b.     projects (coor - ms. Sujata)
c.     finance (coor – pranav)
d.     fund raising( coor not decided)
e.     policy research and training and development (coor not decided)
f.     website (coor – upendra)
7.     the different teams then separated to prepare their plan of actions
(INDIVIDUAL TEAM COOR TO PUT UP THE DETAILS ON THE BM NASHIK GRP)
8.     collection of monthly contributions from members. Receipts given to
all.
9.     the tree plantation project given top priority, and work will
commence soon.
10.     next meeting decided on 18th June'06 (Sunday), same place but at 4
pm.
11.     national anthem






-- 
"We have only one Passion
The Rise of a Great Nation."

www.bharatudaymission.org





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TOPIC: BM Kanpur : Success in Passport Scandal
http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/4c445549023418b4
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Date: Mon, Jun 5 2006 3:01 pm 
From: "Moderator BharatUdayMission"  

Jai Hind,
                I am glad to tell all of our BM family that we are getting
great success in our mission against corruption. The work initiated by
our very own Alok Trivedi is on its way to success. We had sent the copies
of the statements given by students and faculty to 9 places and The
Honerable President of India was one among them.
                On Saturday, a team from crime branch Kanpur had visited us
to investigate the whole matter. Yesterday we all were glad to know that
The Honerable President of India has asked D.I.G. to look into the matter.
Thus, D.I.G. had visited IITK yesterday. ALok had a meeting with him for
about 90 minutes. Overall the thing is that right now the things are going
great for us. I would like to again thank Alok, who has looked into the
matter single handedly. May god bless him, and may god enrich us with as
many patriotic and pure people as possible.

one correction-----
Team of anti corruption organisation has visited along with DIG .
they people were here for two days yesterday and the day after yesterday.
and if the things will succeed then credit goes to bharat uday mission
kanpur chapter and all the faculty and students of iit kanpur who have us
their support. and I will give specially thanks to Gopal ,without his much
afford it can't be possible..
this is just a beginning. we have to do a lot of other things too. and make
our country corruption free.
Jai Hind






      Jai Hind
      BM_Kanpur






-- 
"We have only one Passion
The Rise of a Great Nation."

www.bharatudaymission.org





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TOPIC: Fwd: Reservation Effect
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 5 2006 3:05 am 
From: "Aman Kumar Vashisht"  

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: vijay Deshmukh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Jun 5, 2006 12:18 AM
Subject: Reservation Effect
To: Aman Kumar Vashisht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 Thanks Aman for your explanatory mail. I shall urge to think on few
points.

1. Financial support :- Why the student from backward classes can't take/
get proper education? Lack of financial support ? Right ? But what a great
solution we have found out ? To give financial assistant (non-refundable) in
terms of scholarship (based on caste).

Aman, what do think, if you get something free ?  of no worth, isn't it ?
Then why should the education be free completely. Let there be educational
loan for each course along with the money needed to meet his/her personal
care. It may be at the interest rate of as low as 1 %.

You may be surprised to see this view. But let me ask the question, how many
of those who took the benefit of reservation are helping others to grow,
atleast financially ? I see none or may be too less. Why to waste the money
and why not to INVEST it ? And re-circulate it ?

If there is binding on you to repay the amount, you will try hard to
succeed. And if not, you will waste the same in non-veg or drinks party. (I
had experienced this with few of my friends).

2. Reservation :- I am against all kinds of reservation, except those based
on physical disability.

3. Schooling :- Not only school buildings but also infra structure should be
developed. Obviously, I will not suggest to give it free. Let there be a
part of students and villagers in building the School.  Then only, everybody
will feel the proud of school.

4. Students, also, should not be given the education completely free. They
must be used for social work as adult education (and not only literacy),
cleanliness, planting, etc. This should be included in the syllabus and
should be given equal weightage as that of current syllabus.

5. It must include the sport, too along with Yoga as a part of curriculum.

Crudely, Yoga and parade, sport, social work and curriculum should be given
equal weightage.

Well, I do have more ideas on the same, but I would like to hear from your
side first. I am eager to read, what you people think about this. I,
particularly, am interested in Education and will be happy to join you, but
I am still not aware of your ideology and thoughts, specially in education,
to that extent. If you can suggest me somebody from Mumbai, to talk with, I
shall be happy for the same.

I hope you won't mind for I am taking much of your time to understand your
thoughts.

Thanks for taking your time to write me.

With kind regards,
Vijay Deshmukh.

*"Lunch is not free"*

PS :- You can call me directly by my name, if you wish so. It will be more
informal :-)

 ----- Original Message -----
*From:* Aman Kumar Vashisht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* vijay Deshmukh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 *Sent:* Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:47 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Marathi.NET] Fw: Fwd: [bm] Reservation Effect


 Dear Brother Vijay,
                             I am not against reservation when it was
started after independence. It is also a fact that many needy people got
benefit from it. But the point is that now after 60 years of independence
the political parties are using reservation as a weapon to gain more votes
and not to really and sincerely uplift the so called sc/st and backward
castes.
                            It is because the government has not done enough
in last 60 years so that the benefit of reservation reach the deepest level
in our society and villages.
                            When reservation was implemented after
indepence, even in our consitution it was mentioned that it is for 10 years.
But even after 60 years the govt. is just in the planning stage. They are
still not trying to found the many ways which should be implemented along
with reservation so that all section come on same platform and there will
not be any need for further reservation. Because it should be clear that at
some point in time reservation on caste basis will be abolished when our
purpose gets fulfilled. But it will be fulfilled only if goverment honestly
tries to do so and not just for votes.
                          Hence the main thrust should be on Primary and
Secondary education while continuing reservation for some more time.I have
seen so many school in villages where there are not even basic
infrastructure like teachers, rooms etc. If the goverment which has
collected Rs 20,000 crores in last 2 years from all income tax payers just
for education cess, cannot provide primary and secondary education
facilities what is there right to play with the intellactuals of the
country who by their immense hard work become engineers and doctors etc and
then helping india socially, economically and pushing india to the path of
Developed Nation.

I have an e.g. Suppose in a good company if you are a manager, you assign a
work to a candidate, if he is bright he will complete it quickly. But if you
know the candidate is not much capable then you will give him more time to
finish of his work. If your company is really social conscious may be you
will give him some more time and give him some training at your cost so that
he become capable of doing the same work in less time.
In no case you will say for not bright candidate if he complete 60% of the
work, the work will understood to be completed. He can learn and gain skills
but he has to finish it whether sooner or later.
But But......in any case the work is there to be completed and there is
always a date for that which be extended as for the not so bright candidate
but it cannot be extended infinitely.

If you fix the time line then you will work more intensily to achieve that
target. Hence govt. should fix a target and should achives it and then give
the statistical figure to support their point.

In last 60 years they have failed as they had done as much work which
could have been done in less then half of that time.

Mind you even the so called India Shining and Indian professionals and
entrenears all over the world are due to Indians only and not due to corrupt
politicians who most of the time wake up to know that some indian achived
this thing after reading in newspaper.

Hence without complete review of existing reservation policy by govt. and
fully understanding the loop-holes they should not go ahead to implement new
27% reservation for so called OBC's which in most cases are rich and well
settled. Also conituing sc/sct/obc reservation in creamy layer - the people
who was IAS/IPS or othe elite classes the government is making the life
difficult for the people in these castes who was poor and really need govt.
help.

They should also set a target that till 2020 we will achieve our target and
stop the reservation further.

They should set target that we will make so lacks schools in so many
villages having proper rooms, teachers. and then show to the public that
they have done that.

They should give financial as well as training support to the sc/st/obcs in
primary as well as secondary education.

They should remove the root cause of problem rather just putting green
colors to the yellow turned leaves of trees.....just to tell people that
vote for us as we made it green....and hiding the fact that the root of
trees are still infected with insects in need of water and fertilizer.

And the interview of Arjun Singh was there to know that while Karan Thapar
was giving reasoning, facts with every question...Arjun Singh replies
were just yes/no and cleary tell us that he is hiding something...which is
truth. Read it again carefully you will know.

Thanks and Regards,
Have a Nice Journey to Developed India 2020 - Aman

"We have only one Passion, the Rise of a Great Nation - Jai Hind"




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TOPIC: === Information About Teams and Team Members! ===
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 5 2006 7:14 pm 
From: "Moderator BharatUdayMission"  

Dear All,

Please find the list of all teams their coordinators.

1. Admin Team
A) Gyanranjan ( Gyan)  [EMAIL PROTECTED]          9868321950
B)Ram Ji Tripathi (ram ) [EMAIL PROTECTED]  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
                                           9818777299

Note :
Responsibilities are equally shared among members.
Its highest Executive body of BM.
Admin Team is responsible to General Body and BM management.

2. BM Management
A) Ram Ji Tripathi ( on behalf of Admin Team) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
9818777299
B) Gopalkrishna ( on Behalf of Policy Research Team)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]    9838992824
C) Parjanya Shukla (  on Behalf of  Propagation Team )
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

0990845363
D)  Prashant Moulii ( on Behalf of Website Team)  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


All Teams given below are responsible to Admin team and BM management.

3. Policy Research Team :
Coordinator : Gopalkrishna  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9838992824

4. Website Team :
Coordinator : Paresh  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  09396711658


5. Propagation Team :
 Coordinator : Muru  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                                  09986159659

6. Groundwork Team:
Admin Team is taking care of it.

7. Finance Team :
Admin Team is taking care of it.

PS : as most us are professionals , Please call us before 9 AM or after 8
PM.


-- 
"We have only one Passion
The Rise of a Great Nation."

www.bharatudaymission.org




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