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Today's topics: * String operations: an effective tool against corruption. - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/efcb93f661656858 * Resignation from the Central Administrative Team - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/1b66bb8a23d15583 * मुआफ़ी - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/b1c0e06d59a5e88c * Fwd: [ArthaKranti-Pune] Good morning - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/c63f51ae7183de88 ============================================================================== TOPIC: String operations: an effective tool against corruption. http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/efcb93f661656858 ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Mon, May 15 2006 10:10 am From: "Himanshu (Aajaad)" Hi All, This is not a article describing the adverse effects of corruption. I believe in "action speaks louder then words." I'm here with a solution that will hinder the growth of corruption. In our country corruption is increasing day by day and has crossed its limits. Say for example if a person by mistakes jumps Red light the local "havaldar"(constable) straight forward ask "jurmana hai, 200 parchi ke saath, 100 bina parchi ke"(Fine: 200 with reciept, 100 without reciept.). Definitely if we ourselves doesn't participate in that, corruption level will get decreased but that wouldn't suffice. On the other hand technology is becoming easily accessible day by day. Now even the simplest mobile phones have facilities like still camera, video camera and voice recorder. So does these two scenarios click you something? You are right! I'm talking about string operations. If done through this way this would straight way help to cut lower level corruption. Remember the last string operations on ministers. I'm not talking about that but we can get caught at least local corrupt officials that further feed higher ones. Then at least they would fear asking such straightforward questions. If the string operation results were put on web (sites) then it will insure that culprits get punished and will teach others a good lesson. Definitely this is not a task of an individual, but this appears to me only feasible way by which each individual can (almost) easily participate to cut down corruption, a major hurdle in the growth of our country. So what do you say? (Please reply. you can also personally reply me on [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Waiting for your favourly responses Vande Matram Himanshu "Koi bhi desh perfect nahi hota, use perfect banana pedta hai" ============================================================================== TOPIC: Resignation from the Central Administrative Team http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/1b66bb8a23d15583 ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Mon, May 15 2006 11:46 pm From: Ali.... Divya, Never got the oppertunity to say this.. Let me say this now. I really respect and admire you. You have done a lot for this organization, hats off to you. You have been one of 'THE' reasons for getting the hyderabad chapter together, for getting all of us together. It is a shame that you have to resign. Friends, tell me, if someone like divya has to resign from the team..... well.. i see no difference between Bharat Uday and say the Congress party. Something that represents what we are against. I believe Bharat Uday was about Democracy. About making ourselved heard. About inculcating change, change in the way people think, uplift our society and country. I think i need to have a rethink on this now. No... I ain't a close friend of Divya's. I just barely know her. I've known her for all of i think 2 months. But yes. I support her.. because i know she's right here. And no i personally don't mind any action that might be taken against me... i just can't see this injustice in an organization which i thought has attained 'moksh' from these evils. If any of you guys in the Central team has any moral sense left.. PLEASE TELL me whats wrong is asking for a constitution? whats wrong in elections? I as a part of BM DEMAND an answer. Not that crap about we'll see and lets think. And if so WHEN? from what i hear you guys have 'declined' to come for a meeting? is that Your idea of democracy? of equality? Friends, i am being blunt beacause it is my right to be. I have a right to an opinion.. and this i say without any hesitation and from my conscience,Ispeak for Most of the Active Members from Bm HYD when i make the points i just did. If you people choose not to act. We are doomed even before we begin. Jai Hind Ali Ziaee (a BM Member.... Till date) And if you guys want to prove me wrong.. Well then i'd suggest an opinion poll on our main group with the choices being in favour of a meet to discuss issues or not and whether we want a set of written bylays to make ourselves more organized and accountable(which is THE case in Hyderabad) or not! On 5/15/06, Divyashri Cherala < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In the past three months as a member of the Central Administrative Team, > I have worked closely with some individuals who have over time accused me of > many things from trying to gain "personal glory" to thirsting for power. > The apologies that two of them made afterwards are inconsequential. > > As a part of the decision-making authority in the present structure of > Bharat Uday Mission, the least I deserved was respect and trust, neither of > which I believe I have got. > > If I was trying to make Hyderabad the power center as some members fear or > if I was in this for personal glory, I would have stood for President in the > recently conducted elections for Bhumi, Hyderabad Chapter, which I did not. > The Elections were conducted so as to ensure that everyone had an equal > opportunity to represent the Hyderabad chapter and take our vision forward, > unlike in the Central Teams where things are quite autocratic. > For more details about the By Laws that we have used, please mail me ( > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ). You will notice that it is a democratic > setup and everyone is accountable and no individual is above the > organization. > > When I raised a question regarding why the entire teams' names, chapter > details, email addresses and phone numbers are not put up on the website, it > was again misconstrued as a move to glorify my name, instead of looking at > it as a way for every member to be able to gain access to their respective > chapter member on the Central Teams. > There are other incidents where certain individuals have acted on behalf > of the Administrative Team and I've had to face the consequences because of > them. It is quite embarrassing to read so many mails against a team that I > represent. > > All these concerns brought me to float the idea of having an urgent > meeting of all the Central Team members, in light of a few recent mismanaged > events. 3 of them showed no interest or urgency to resolve issues > by discussing them one-on-one. It is quite obvious that these problems will > remain unsolved till there is a personal meeting of sorts and until all > apprehensions are put forward so that we can deal with these issues in the > best possible manner. It is also essential that any Constitution or policies > that are drafted should take into consideration the views of all Chapter > Coordinators who are the ones working at the grassroot level and have a > clearer understanding than those who sit on their computers trying to frame > policies based on other existing political organizations' ideas. > > We know very well that there are deficiencies in the existing set up that > come in the way of fulfilling our vision. We are plagued with needless > controversies and have very little ground work to demonstrate to the nation > our ability to change the destiny of our country. It is the ideology of the > organization that has brought us together and hence it is our duty to > protect it and nurture it. > > These matters lead me to invite 3 members(2 from Bangalore and 1 from > Pune) who have been instrumental in making their respective chapters very > active in terms of projects taken up and membership. I invited them to > Hyderabad over a weekend(30th of April and 1st of May) to come and see the > different initiatives that we'd undertaken and practically see the > organizational structure that has allowed us to work in a completely > cooperative fashion and as a cohesive unit. > Just to give you a brief idea, in a matter of 4 months, we have grown from > 32 members to 348 members(as on 14th May 2006). We have 4 ongoing projects > and two more ambitious projects where we have started on the basic research. > Please mail me [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more details about them. > > We had an extensive discussion of the Bylaws of Hyderabad chapter. At the > outset it must be said that the bylaws are not yet finalized, it is a > working copy that needs refining and Hyderabad chapter is open to > suggestions. But the basic frame work of Hyderabad chapter takes the best of > the existing national structure and redefines it in a manner that > facilitates our graduation to a full time ground work organization. The > discussions then culminated with a presentation of a proposed national > structure and the need to prioritize activities. We felt there are many > members in the central team who are inactive and yet define the direction > for this organization which is unfair to those who actively work for this > organization in the field. We need an organizational design that encourages > only the conscientious and the competent to define the direction for the > organization. > > > > We unanimously feel the need to revamp the existing set up as* the present > set up gives inactive and ill meaning members an opportunity to play havoc > with the system and disrupts work that has been painstakingly put in by > active members. *To take such a giant leap, we need an appropriate forum > that has a national consensus of sorts. It was felt that a national > convention would be an appropriate forum to make that leap to a dynamic > organization that facilitates ground work. Before we get to the convention > the present national structure needs to discuss various suggestions from > active members so that the best foundations could be laid for the future of > this organization. However to do so in an open forum will only help the > inactive and the ill meaning to disrupt the process. > > > > We proposed the formulation of a special task team that comprises the > existing national team members, all the chapter coordinators and a few > members from various chapters who have actively thought in this direction > and may be in a position to make meaningful contribution to our discussions. > The convention will then be a forum to *implement* the revamped structure. > > > Until such a structure is in place, I will find it highly impossible to > join forces with the present Team that I am supposed to work with. I have > mentioned the reasons above and I truly believe that we cannot take the > organization to it's rightful destiny if things go on in the way they are > presently. > > The hastily written mail about the Constitution Drafting process which was > sent, seemed to me as a means to pacify a few of us who have been vehemently > voicing our opinions about the present structure. The mail was hardly > discussed and there are many questions that are plaguing my mind about the > practicality of the drafting procedure. When I raised my concern regarding > this, I was, unsurprisingly and unceremoniously, told to "read" the document > before replying and was also indirectly threatened about taking disciplinary > action against me. > > I've put forward all my concerns and I would like to put in my resignationas > this goes against the unwritten code of conduct that is expected of > members at the moment. I am sure there will be arguments against everything > I've said above and also many more allegations of a personal nature. I am > ready for it and also to face any kind of disciplinary action taken against > me due to this mail. > > I invite ALL interested members to visit Hyderabad on June 10th and 11th > to see our chapter members in action. 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Agar yeh sikh bandhu is terha se sochte hain to iske peeche bhi koi karan hoga aur abhi tak yeh wastvikta se puri terha aanjaan hain... Infact har dharm mein is terha ki soch ke log hote hain... Hindusim mein bhi kai kattar dharmi hain... Is terha ke log na hindu hote hain na sikh, yeh sirf shaitaan\raksas hain jo apne dharm ke naam per he apne dharm ka naash karte hain... Aur dekhne wali baat yeh hai ki jab koi hindustani chahe woh hindu ho ya sikh is terha sochta hai to nuksaan sirf hindustaan ka hota hai... Aur aaj yeh baat spasth hai ki aaj koi bhi dharm akela desh lie kar nahi jii sakta yani ekta mein bal hai... Aur kisi ke yeh kehne se ki weh hindustaan se alag hain, weh hindustaan se alag nahi ho jate.... Itihaas gawah hai ki bangaal se lekar balukistaan tak hindustaan hamesha se eak desh raha hai.... yahan ke logon ki eak sanskritit rahi hai, eak bhasha boli hai aur eak khana khaya hai.... haan shashaq kai rahe hain aur yeh to chalta hi rahta hai... kabhi in sahab ko amrika bhej ke dekiya fir inhe sab samajh aa jayegaa :) kon apna hai aur kon paraya. :) Haan agar aap hindustaan ke saath hain to weh baat na soche jisse desh ka nuksaan hota ho... aur jab aap raste se jaa rahe hon aur koi kutta bhoke to kya aap usse ladne lagte hain :) ============================================================================== TOPIC: Fwd: [ArthaKranti-Pune] Good morning http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/c63f51ae7183de88 ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Mon, May 15 2006 9:12 pm From: Rishikesh ============================================================================== You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BM_discussion" group. 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