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  Re: E36 Rear Shock Mount Replacement
  Re: E36 Rear Shock Mount Replacement
  Re: E36 Rear Shock Mount Replacement
  Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages)
  Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages)
  Best deal on Alternator
  Re: accident update 
  Re: Source for reman alternator
  Fade D paint 
  More clues to alternator problem
  <E36> Front Door Handle R&R

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 12:14:52 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "willie yeo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Brian Daley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E36 Rear Shock Mount Replacement
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


"willie yeo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My mechanic in LA area had designed a combination of RSM and
> rear strut brace in one.
> He claim that this product will put an end to RSM replacement.
> He and his fellow mechanics are sick of replacing RSM so he
> came up with a design to solve the problem once and for all.

Will,
Stock RSMs failure mode has nothing to do with the attachment point to the
rear shock tower (as fragile as the rear towers may be).
The problem is with the rubber inside the RSM that connects the top of your
shock to the metallic perimeter of the RSM that is bolted to the tower. The
rubber is very pliable and is subject to constant stress from the shock. It
both rots with time and wears out with use. It's not uncommon for the top
of the shock to move 1" within the OE mount.
The excessive movement within the RSM also reduced the rear shocks'
effectiveness and promotes understeer. Thus the popularity of GC and JTD
RSMs that a). use something other than bubble gum in the mount and minimize
the shock within the RSM; b). provider a larger perimeter attachment area
between the RSM and the rear tower; c). do not wear out every 20-30K miles.

But hey, if you want to piece of mind and cushiness of OE parts, why stray
into the aftermarket?

> I have seen the prototype. He is planing to sell it for under
> $200. I will try to post a picture of the product when it
> becomes available.

Please include the picture of the new boat your mechanic is planning to
finance with this 'product'.

--- Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the alternative viewpoint on the RSMs and the other
> tips. I'm leaning away from the GCs due to the urethane bushings
> - I'm more concerned with ride quality than durability or getting
> the last bit of handling out of it.

Brian,
If that is your assessment, than why stray from the OE components?
You can't have the cake and eat it to.
If you are staying with OE shocks, I guarantee you will not feel any
difference with GC RSMs (the OE shocks are too soft to.

IMHO,
alex f




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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:30:50 -0800
From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E36 Rear Shock Mount Replacement
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Feb 17, 2004, at 10:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I have seen the prototype. He is planing to sell it for under
>> $200. I will try to post a picture of the product when it
>> becomes available.
>
> Please include the picture of the new boat your mechanic is planning to
> finance with this 'product'.

That is an entirely reasonable price for a combination rear shock tower 
bar and permanent RSM setup.

Whether or not the car actually needs a rear bar is another question 
entirely.

But the pricing is dead-on.

- Mark
   E36 325is JP/A5 #117, welded-in rear strut bar, GC RSMs
-----
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:25:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E36 Rear Shock Mount Replacement
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

-----Original Message-----
>From: willie yeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<snipped>
>My mechanic in LA area had designed a combination of
>RSM and rear strut brace in one.

Not an option on a convertible unless you don't plan to ever put the top down.  The 
brace would be in the top well.

Brian




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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:36:12 -0500
From: "Carey Probst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I just purchased a new Bosch 90 amp for my '86 325e from All OEM Parts.

Total including shipping, $214.  Waiting for the $45 core refund now.

Same web look as Zionsville I found out but not sure if related companies or
both are using the same vendor.


Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, '86 325e w/i cam
BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters
JC CAIed and Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>Looks like I'm going to be needing an alternator soon.  I know of
>Zionsville Autosport, any others?
>
>2.5L (m50) single Vanos (engine from a 93 325i).  Thanks in advance.
>
>Phil
>
>
Whatever you do, don't buy a reman alternator from a third party
rebuilder (i.e., one you would get from a NAPA, Carquest, etc.). I just
recently went through this on my '97 M3/4. My original alternator was
whining a good bit, so I replaced it with a third party Valeo reman.
along with a new belt, tensioner, and pullies. The reman still made a
bit of noise, and within a week all of my lights were flickering. I
replaced the battery to see if that would help as the BMW battery was
showing a low charge-no change. I sent that back and they sent another
Valeo-same problem but even worse. After a lot of searching on the
Internet, I have found that the only decent alternator is a reman. Bosch
from the dealer. Stay away from the Valeo alternator-from my research
they had a lot of problems with these!

This weekend I picked up a used BMW/Bosch alternator from a CCA friend
and now everything is perfect-no alternator whine and I have a steady
voltage. I know that thru the dealers here that the reman. Bosch 80 amp
is around $240 with the CCA discount and a $30 core charge.

Eric Giles
'97 M3/4
'90 M3


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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 12:05:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



-----Original Message-----
>From: Carey Probst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Same web look as Zionsville I found out but not sure if related companies or
>both are using the same vendor.

It's a commercial auto parts web catalog package.  Many of the sites selling parts 
(for all makes of cars) online use it, that's why their catalogs look the same.  Makes 
it easy to comparison shop as once you find what you're looking for in one catalog the 
navigation is the same at the next site.  It probably also makes it pretty easy for 
them to monitor their competitors' prices which would explain why the prices on a 
given part are often very close if not identical from one site to the next.

Brian
'94 325ic   




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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:48:31 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Best deal on Alternator
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

http://autoexpress.safeshopper.com/226/cat226.htm?646

autoexpress.safeshopper.com - has reman. Bosch, 140 AMP, 3 year warranty,
alternators for $158.95, with a $35 core charge included.  This looks like
the best deal I've found yet.

Thanks Nick A


Phil



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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 19:03:56 -0600
From: Mark and Heather Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: bmwuucdigest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: accident update 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Manuel,  I am glad that things worked out well in 
your favor.   I do not think that others were 
"quick to judge" if you got  so many  responses.
Face it, the people responding only had a limited
amount of information right ?!?  

As an FYI, if you "witness" was a passenger in 
your vehicle,  then many times insurance companies
will not interview the passenger... How often is
a passenger  in your vehicle  ( especially if it's
a friend, SO, or family member ) going to say anything
different than the driver?    If the witness was 
indeed an independent witness, then  the claim rep
was not doing their job, and that's bad. 

How was the decision made in your favor?  
What made the claim rep change their mind? 


Mark Williams
Dallas, TX
91 ///M3 2.5L


PS...  I don't talk B'S, and I am the  "other 
    insurance company" on hundreds of claims a day.. 




>Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:28:27 -0800 (PST)
>From: Mr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Accident update.......
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Greetings group!
>
>I just wanted to give you guys an update on what
>happened with my whole accident situation.  Last
>October I was hit while making a left turn at an
>intersection by a girl that ran a red light.  Some of
>you were quick to judge and blamed me for not making
>sure the intersection was clear yada yada yada.  I
>won't mention any names.  Well after an extensive
>process and her fighting that the light was yellow I
>was found NOT AT FAULT.  I was VERY persistant with
>her insurance company, who did not even try to get a
>statement from my witness or follow up with me. 
>Persistance here definately prevailed.  I just wanted
>to let you all know to be as persistant as possible
>until you get what's right.  And don't believe too
>much of what the other insurance company is telling
>you because most of it is just bull S#$%! 
>
>Manuel Paredes
>1995 325i
>L.A. BMWCCA


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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 20:03:45 -0500
From: Martin Bullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Source for reman alternator
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Just an FYI, but Bosch shut down their remanufacturing operations here 
in the USA.  A Bosch-branded reman unit (as distinct from a reman Bosch 
unit) might be imported, or more likely comes from one of the same 
production rebuilders that supplies the large chains.

A straight reman Bosch unit could come from any of the import 
alternator rebuilders, depending on who the store buys from.

Martin Bullen
'95 M3
'97 Z3 2.8

On Feb 17, 2004, at 4:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:20:18 -0600
> From: Eric Giles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Source for reman alternator
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Search the 
>> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>> Looks like I'm going to be needing an alternator soon.  I know of
>> Zionsville Autosport, any others?
>>
>> 2.5L (m50) single Vanos (engine from a 93 325i).  Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
> Whatever you do, don't buy a reman alternator from a third party
> rebuilder (i.e., one you would get from a NAPA, Carquest, etc.). I just
> recently went through this on my '97 M3/4. My original alternator was
> whining a good bit, so I replaced it with a third party Valeo reman.
> along with a new belt, tensioner, and pullies. The reman still made a
> bit of noise, and within a week all of my lights were flickering. I
> replaced the battery to see if that would help as the BMW battery was
> showing a low charge-no change. I sent that back and they sent another
> Valeo-same problem but even worse. After a lot of searching on the
> Internet, I have found that the only decent alternator is a reman. 
> Bosch
> from the dealer. Stay away from the Valeo alternator-from my research
> they had a lot of problems with these!
>
> This weekend I picked up a used BMW/Bosch alternator from a CCA friend
> and now everything is perfect-no alternator whine and I have a steady
> voltage. I know that thru the dealers here that the reman. Bosch 80 amp
> is around $240 with the CCA discount and a $30 core charge.
>
> Eric Giles
> '97 M3/4
> '90 M3


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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:12:42 -0800
From: "BMWBits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "2002digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "E21 Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "Senior Six Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "Sixer coupe Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "Uucdigest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fade D paint 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Quick question : 
What is general concensus on the best product for restoring colour to
faded automotive paint ? Your typical BMW hood and trunklid after 15 yrs
in S E sunshine ,rain, humidity ,bootleg whisky etc etc ....
DON�T say 'rubbing compound ' !! I need to put colour back not rub it
off on a cloth !! 

Beepee, retiree, tennessee..wheeee!! 
Seattle Summers , Tennessee Winters .
Long Commute between , 



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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 06:36:04 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: More clues to alternator problem
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I took the alternator off last night.  It is a 140 amp bosch (m50 2.5L
single Vanos).  The first thing I noticed was rubber dust on the underside
of the unit - telling me the pulley locked and the belt started shaving.
After removing completely, though the pulley would spin freely, there was
some slight degree of play or wobble in the pulley.  The tensioner seems
fine, spins fine, and tensions fine.  The alternator does have paint
markings on it "x30" and "mm" - something that reminds me of a junk yard
piece, probably used.  The engine was a swap from a 325i, but I'm betting
the alternator came separately and from an older car.

Thanks to all for the suggestions.  I'll post the results of the
reinstallation.

Phil



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Date: 18 Feb 2004 08:42:20 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: <E36> Front Door Handle R&R
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Please tell me the Bentley manual is mistaken in saying it's 
necessary to remove the window glass on a '92 318is to R&R 
the front door outside handle.  Please?

Curt Ingraham
Oakland, CA

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